Windows Vista has now a DVD data burn feature in windows media player (click the arrow next to burn to choose Data disc instead of Music). So with this new feature I burned a double-layer 8.5GB DVD full of music. Then tried it in the MDX. However that didn't work saying bad disc.

Most likely DL is not supported. There's also a small chance that it's the DVD format that wmp uses.
The Navigation unit may still accept a double-layer disk since the factory DVD's are double-layer. Haven't tried a backup yet.

Someone had said previously that it would work....

 

I created some DL DVDs using iTunes (creates a DVD data disc). They work, but the initial read (each time you switch to the disc) take a very long time. Also, if there are a lot of folders (i.e. folders by artist), it takes a while for those to display for searching purposes.

If the goal is to get all your music into the MDX for purposes of shuffling, this approach works great. Otherwise, it is a bit cumbersome.

 

I created some DL DVDs using iTunes (creates a DVD data disc). They work, but the initial read (each time you switch to the disc) take a very long time. Also, if there are a lot of folders (i.e. folders by artist), it takes a while for those to display for searching purposes.

If the goal is to get all your music into the MDX for purposes of shuffling, this approach works great. Otherwise, it is a bit cumbersome.

I guess it needs to be a different DVDformat (that wmp doesn't support). I wonder if it's ISO/UDF disk. I can try Nero or some other program to see if that works (not that I really need that much space though but more out of curiousity).

 

It does work.

I can tell you for a fact DL DVD does work. I spent a great deal of time testing this.

Somethings to keep in mind when burning a DL DVD.
1000 songs max...the unit will not display anything after 999.

No deeper than 8 folders is allowed.

No more than 255 songs in a folder

320Kb is max allowed bitrate for MP3

198kb is max for WMA (WMA lossless does not work)

You have to burn a DATA DVD not a redbook music disc. I simply selected Data DVD in Nero.

You do not have to switch layers by holding the disc button as reported in another post.

It can be a little slow to load the disc as there is alot of data for the system to read and display on the navi screen, it's worth the wait when you can select random track and not hear the same thing for a week.

The odd time the disc will fail to read..I think this happens when the disc is cold and the player is warm. Eject and try again or try buring to a different DL disc. The ones I am using are RiDATA 2.4X 8.5GB DVD+R Dual Layer. They are bluish on the record side...they work but I think if I can find a more silver finish they may work better.

I used Windows Media Player to convert my CD's to 256KB MP3's and set it to organize as follows

Band Folder - Album folder - Track Number (-dash) song name . MP3

The proper info is then diplayed in the head unit and on the Navi screen.

 

Trigger,
Thanks for the info. I have never tried DVD+R DL cuz the user manual only makes reference to -R format for DVD audio. Time to start a new project.
I have burned a couple of DVD-R using Nero, all the folder names and song names show up ok, however, it does not recognize or display the disk name I assigned when the disk was burned. I put the disk in the computer and use Window Explorer, the disk name shows up correctly. Have you encountered similar problem??

 

Trigger,
Thanks for the info. I have never tried DVD+R DL cuz the user manual only makes reference to -R format for DVD audio. Time to start a new project.
I have burned a couple of DVD-R using Nero, all the folder names and song names show up ok, however, it does not recognize or display the disk name I assigned when the disk was burned. I put the disk in the computer and use Window Explorer, the disk name shows up correctly. Have you encountered similar problem??

Yes that's 'by design'. The first file on disk will always be the disc name. So what I did is create an empty 1 sec file with the name of the disc and put it in the root folder.

The Memorex DL +R plays fine in my computer but not in my MDX. So I'm not sure yet what it takes to get it to work. I'll try later Nero instead of windows media player. My only guess is that the DVD format is different (UDF instead of ISO/UDF or something).

 

Trigger,
Thanks for the info. I have never tried DVD+R DL cuz the user manual only makes reference to -R format for DVD audio. Time to start a new project.
I have burned a couple of DVD-R using Nero, all the folder names and song names show up ok, however, it does not recognize or display the disk name I assigned when the disk was burned. I put the disk in the computer and use Window Explorer, the disk name shows up correctly. Have you encountered similar problem??

Luke is right it does not display the true assigned disc name(dunno why)..I also made a small 5 sec blank mp3 file and named it MDX MP3 DVD 01. That's what will show up in the disc selection menu.

 

To keep it simple run Nero express and select Music > DVD jukebox audio dvd. See image.

 

Hi

I had a similar problem burning directly from Media Player on Single Layer DVDs. Seems it uses a slightly different disk format (not sure if it is Himat or something like that).
Did the same thing with my regular burning software, and it worked, no problem.

Just as an aside, I ripped my CD collection to WMA format with a sampling rate of 192KB/s. I am getting 900+ songs on a single layer DVD-R disk. While trouble-shooting my "burning problem" (no, Dr, I have not.... ), I heard there is alimit of 1000 tracks on a disk. So, to summarize, if you're compressin your files at all, it might not get you anything to use DL disks...

russ

 

Hi

I had a similar problem burning directly from Media Player on Single Layer DVDs. Seems it uses a slightly different disk format (not sure if it is Himat or something like that).
Did the same thing with my regular burning software, and it worked, no problem.

Just as an aside, I ripped my CD collection to WMA format with a sampling rate of 192KB/s. I am getting 900+ songs on a single layer DVD-R disk. While trouble-shooting my "burning problem" (no, Dr, I have not.... ), I heard there is alimit of 1000 tracks on a disk. So, to summarize, if you're compressin your files at all, it might not get you anything to use DL disks...

russ

I was able to get 1031 MP3's at 256bit to fit on a DL DVD..it took me a while to figure out why I couldn't see the last few albums.

If you rip at 320kb MP3 you probably won't be able to hit the 1000 song limit. I am in the process of converting my entire CD collection to 320, I'll then use 2 or 3 DL DVD's in the changer as oppsoed to 1 disc with a 1000 256bit tracks. Quality over quantity I say..plus you've got 6 discs in the changer to play with.

 

I just checked the DVD DL that didn't work. It's indeed UDF format as I expected. UDF has no 4GB size limit and works with xbox360 so that might be why that format has been chosen. However I don't think the MDX can read UDF so I'm giving it another try with ISO disk.

My MDX is currently at Acura for fuel door replacement so I'll give it a try tomorrow. The fuel door sometimes got stuck so they ordered the new fuel door.

 

Tried burning ISO double-layer DVD, and yes it works. So don't use windows media player in Vista for the MDX...

 

I think I may have figured out why my disc is spitting out with bad format or unable to read from time to time... the manual states DVD -R and doesn not say +R...I burned my DL with +R media because it was data but I'm told you should use -R in real DVD players. +r is good for data and computers.

Buring a test disc now...will report back if -R helps.

 

I think I may have figured out why my disc is spitting out with bad format or unable to read from time to time... the manual states DVD -R and doesn not say +R...I burned my DL with +R media because it was data but I'm told you should use -R in real DVD players. +r is good for data and computers.

Buring a test disc now...will report back if -R helps.

Nearly all DVD players nowadays accept both +R and -R so that shouldn't be a problem. It's not that +R is a computer format, it's rather some vendors pushed for +R and some for -R (like the Blu-ray/HD-DVD thing).

DL only exists in +R and I was able to use those in the MDX as long as it's formatted as ISO. So maybe the format is rather the problem.

 

Nearly all DVD players nowadays accept both +R and -R so that shouldn't be a problem. It's not that +R is a computer format, it's rather some vendors pushed for +R and some for -R (like the Blu-ray/HD-DVD thing).

DL only exists in +R and I was able to use those in the MDX as long as it's formatted as ISO. So maybe the format is rather the problem.

The new DL -R I burnt today works perfectly and loads way faster than the +R(5secs) and so far has not been spit out. The manual clearly states support for -R DVD only. I'm certian this was my issue with intermittent bad reads.

Again -R is the recommend format for non-computer DVD players.

 

The new DL -R I burnt today works perfectly and loads way faster than the +R(5secs) and so far has not been spit out. The manual clearly states support for -R DVD only. I'm certian this was my issue with intermittent bad reads.

Again -R is the recommend format for non-computer DVD players.

Interesting, I didn't know that DVD -R DL existed. The DVD +R DL reads as fast as my DVD -R in my '07 MDX. I didn't encounter any problems with the DVD+R Double layer (memorex).

I would disagree that -R is recommended format for non-PC since it depends on the brand. For example Philips and Sony DVD recorders recorded solely on DVD+R/RW in the beginning. However now most will play/record both formats. More info is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD+R

 

Interesting, I didn't know that DVD -R DL existed. The DVD +R DL reads as fast as my DVD -R in my '07 MDX. I didn't encounter any problems with the DVD+R Double layer (memorex).

I would disagree that -R is recommended format for non-PC since it depends on the brand. For example Philips and Sony DVD recorders recorded solely on DVD+R/RW in the beginning. However now most will play/record both formats. More info is here: DVD+R - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, does anyone know for sure which one has a higher chance of working?

DVD-R or DVD+R?

 

Yes that's 'by design'. The first file on disk will always be the disc name. So what I did is create an empty 1 sec file with the name of the disc and put it in the root folder.

Luke, so you created a mp3 file with your disk name? So is this what your directory structure looks like?

IE:

D:\
MYDISKNAME.mp3
<MusicFolder1>
<MusicFolder2>
<MusicFolder3>

 

Yes, structure is like this:

MyDiskName.wma (or mp3 file works as well)
- Folder1
- Folder2
- ....

 

Thanks,

Worked like a champ! No more guessing what disk is in what slot.

 

Re: It does work.

I used Windows Media Player to convert my CD's to 256KB MP3's and set it to organize as follows

Band Folder - Album folder - Track Number (-dash) song name . MP3

The proper info is then diplayed in the head unit and on the Navi screen.

I am new at this - I apologize in advance if this is a dumb question ...

I have several MP3s in WMP v.11. The MP3s were purchased from Amazon, and have the artist name, title, album artwork, etc. which seems to have transferred to WMP correctly. I loaded them into cirlinca dvd audio solo to produce dvd-a. It works, and sounds great!!, but no track info appears (artist, title - artwork would be cool ...)

What am I doing wrong?

 

Re: Re: It does work.

I am new at this - I apologize in advance if this is a dumb question ...

I have several MP3s in WMP v.11. The MP3s were purchased from Amazon, and have the artist name, title, album artwork, etc. which seems to have transferred to WMP correctly. I loaded them into cirlinca dvd audio solo to produce dvd-a. It works, and sounds great!!, but no track info appears (artist, title - artwork would be cool ...)

What am I doing wrong?

I don't think track, title and song info is support by DVD-A format. I have a store bought DVD-A in the player now and it just shows track 1 track 2 etc.

I don't think you are going to get any benefit converting MP3's or WMA's to DVD-A as you can't gain any quality if your source is mp3. Just burn a DVD-R dual layer disc at MP3 320KB and you'll have the best quality you can get with all the track info. Keep in mind there is a 999 track limit(took me a while to figure that out).

 

OK

Thanks for the reply!

 

Re: Re: Re: It does work.

I don't think track, title and song info is support by DVD-A format. I have a store bought DVD-A in the player now and it just shows track 1 track 2 etc.

I don't think you are going to get any benefit converting MP3's or WMA's to DVD-A as you can't gain any quality if your source is mp3. Just burn a DVD-R dual layer disc at MP3 320KB and you'll have the best quality you can get with all the track info. Keep in mind there is a 999 track limit(took me a while to figure that out).

Actually I noticed the sound quality of converted mp3 to DVD-A disc is much better than the mp3 disc. The bass is much more deeper in the DVD-A. I think it has something to do with the mp3 decoder in the head unit, maybe it's not as good as the DVD-A decoder.