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I just replace both LCAs on my 05 MDX ... the socket/ball joint trick worked well for one side but not the other (and boy was it a pain to break that one loose with the pickle fork). I matched the old LCAs up against the new ones I got from RockAuto (SKP brand) and, while they looked to be identical in size, when I installed the new ones the front end sits WAY higher now, and the wheels seem to have A LOT more positive camber (which is strange since there isn't any visible way to adjust camber).

I made sure to tighten/torque the control arm bolts with the car resting on the ground without any jack, but the result still seems extreme.

Attached is an image that may help explain ... has anyone come across this and then have it corrected after getting an alignment? I just can't see how it's possible to correct height/camber since there's no physical adjustment that I can see.

Edit: I originally stated SPF as the brand, updated it to properly reflect SKP brand).


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Looks high. For comparison, my 06 measures 4 1/2 inches from outside corner of the tire at the very top to the bottom of the fender.

I don’t recognize that brand.

Doesn’t seem possible that the LCA would raise the height unless they’re much shorter measured from the bushings to the ball joint. I don’t think they could be installed upside down, swapped left for right either. Strange. Maybe take the wheel off, double check, post a pic.

You or previous owner didn’t lift it, correct?
 
Correct, no lift. I recently replaced struts w/monroe quick struts a few months back but that didn't change ride height or camber. I may pull off one of the new LCAs this weekend and compare it much more closely with the original ones, but there weren't any issues fit-wise during the installation so I don't know that I'll find much.
 
The only thing I can think of is that the car hasn't been moved yet, and when you jack it up and then drop it back down, the tires end up with that extreme camber, which can raise the front end. Of course, this settles out if you drive the vehicle back and forth 10 feet. The MDX isn't like some cars (like my Volvo V50) with a strut that slides into a pinch clamp that's part of the steering knuckle, and where you place the strut determines the ride height (a good / bad "feature").
 
Quick update - My earlier post mentioned SPF as the brand, it's actually SKP.

I loosened both sets of bolts on both LCAs, drove it back and forth (around 20 feet in distance) and then tightened/torqued them back up ... no difference. I then removed the passenger SKP LCA and installed the previous factory control arm (which is the one that popped when using the socket trick so the ball-joint rubber was still good), tightened/torqued it back up and now the passenger side looks normal. Maybe still looks a little high, but around 3/4" difference between original and SKP height/wheel clearance-wise. I've attached pics to help explain, although the pics don't really do the best job ... the greater camber/wheel clearance on the driver side is more obvious in person.

The reason I replaced them initially was that one ball joint was showing signs of wear, plus the car has 177k miles, so ahead of new tires and an alignment I thought I'd address any front end suspension issues. Might price out factory LCAs locally from local Acura dealer, but here on Vancouver Island parts are generally more expensive whether it's from the dealer or aftermarket ... which is why I thought I'd try the economy option from RockAuto.

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I guess if the LCAs you bought put the wheels in a different position than the originals, you really DO need to swap 'em out for better ones (whether OEM or trustworthy aftermarket parts from a reputable manufacturer). FWWI, I had a camber issue on the back of my '04, and ended up putting adjustable upper control arms on so I could get it back in spec. Mine had the opposite problem as yours (wheels were canted in at the top), and it got worse when it was loaded - and since I used the car for heavily loaded LONG road trips, that was really necessary to preserve my rear tires).
 
Funny timing I just bought both front LCA from 1aauto and will be installing them this weekend. Harbor freight tools sells the ball joint press tool for pennies, save you allot of hard work. Some 8 months ago I installed 1aauto front struts and those have been fine so went with them and the LCA looks just like the oem.

I bought this, but haven't installed yet:


I'll report back how it goes.
 
I have a ball joint press tool (also Harbor Freight) but never used it for my MDX. I found the ball joints came loose easily enough using the "jack up the hub, insert a socket, lower the hub" trick. Or just smacked the LCA with a hammer to loosen the ball joint.

And yes, Dorman parts are normally just fine. It would be interesting to see if they have different dimensions from the ones you installed (giving you strange camber).
 
Ended up going to an alignment shop to get their input and they mention that the issue wasn't with the control arm difference so much as the alignment in general. Popped the new control arm back in and took it to the shop to have them align everything ... the toe was WAY off. After alignment it's perfect. They mentioned rear adjusters were seized so they didn't want to break anything. I let them know it wasn't a big deal.

Here's the before and after results:

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Your only way to adjust that rear camber is to install some adjustable upper control arms. Here's a close-up of mine.
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FWIW, I did a "driveway alignment". I got it in the air, with the wheel off and measured the angle of the face of the brake rotor using a bubble level phone app (really handy for this kind of thing). Then I just calculated what that reading should be if I moved the camber an amount equal to the difference in the current (over-camber'd) state and the desired "center of the spec" state. Then I just cranked the adjusters on the UCAs to get that number and put the wheels back on. That shouldn't affect anything else, at least not enough to matter (and it didn't).
 
Hi,
Need some advice on my 2013 TL suspension make over with 94K miles.
I know this is a different forum but I did my 03 MDX following this thread and I get much more advice here.
I bought OEM 4 strut assemblies (not cheap).
What else would you suggest I change for most value of money to make suspension feel more quiet.
Current ride feels every bump (hence changing struts) and bit noisy.
I am not planning to change LCA, should I change sway bar links?
Are there rubber parts that could be changed?
Any advice is welcome.

Thank you
Robert
 
If there’s noise (clanking) on bumps that usually means strut and strut mounts but you should check for leaking struts. Could be other reasons like bad bushings but you should check those for cracks. The mounts probably need to be clocked so pay attention.

You asked about noise. If you have play or wobble, could be other items - ball joints, outer tie rod ends, bushings. Your tread wear should give clues.

Good luck!
 
If there’s noise (clanking) on bumps that usually means strut and strut mounts but you should check for leaking struts. Could be other reasons like bad bushings but you should check those for cracks. The mounts probably need to be clocked so pay attention.

You asked about noise. If you have play or wobble, could be other items - ball joints, outer tie rod ends, bushings. Your tread wear should give clues.

Good luck!
Let me describe the ride...
I feel lot more bumps.

I am not sure it's metal noise but car does not sound solid OR
It's NOT like new when all you hear is thump (Instead I hear suspension noises).

I already ordered OEM struts for front/back.

So should I also change sway bar links and bushings? (Or only if they look hardened and cracked)
LCAs are expensive at Acura($740+), NOT doing that.
I do see $50-80 units on RockAuto.
I remember on my 03MDX I changed LCA and sway bar links and ride noises went away.

What do you suggest?
Just change struts first and inspect parts while doing the work.
If necessary replace sway bar links first and LCA next if ride quality does not improve?

Thanks
Robert
 
I have an 08 TL bought new with over 200K miles now but not sure how the suspension has changed for your gen. You should be able to pull the wheel and inspect the bushings, links, etc. I would do that before changing the struts in case you find you need something.

I changed my outer tie rods bc the steering felt loose and the power steering gear went out but all rubber still looks good. (Mine is definitely due for struts/shocks and I would use KYB, Monroe, etc. bc for me it’s a daily driver.

Re aftermarket parts, I’m totally comfortable with reputable, well known manufacturers. Often OEM parts are made by the same and IMO, factory parts are overpriced but you know it will be correct. (I used OEM for that steering gear). If you determine you need LCAs, personally I would be OK with Moog, Dorman brands. Again, that’s my opinion.

Good luck!
 
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