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2023 Acura MDX vs 2023 Honda Pilot ... A quick look at some of the differences and similarities

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After watching various videos about the 2023 Honda Pilot online, I got my hands on the Owners' Manual at a Canadian site. The major differences mechanically (Pilot Elite vs MDX Advance) which have already been well publicized are the use of a McPherson strut front suspension on the Pilot vs. Double Wishbones at the front on the MDX and the I-VTM4 vs the SHAWD. I am not exactly sure what noticeable difference any normal driver would observe regarding this suspension setups and my understanding is that the I-VTM4 and SHAWD are essentially the same. The Pilot actually has a newer 3.5 L engine which has a slight bump in power bringing it closer to the MDX. They both use the 10 speed automatic. In short, so far, I am not seeing, mechanically, any justification for the $10k+ price differential.

In terms of features, in several areas, the 2023 Pilot has, in my opinion, jumped ahead of the MDX.
1. I read that the HUD in the Pilot is in color vs. plain white in the MDX.
2. The front camera in the Pilot has a wash feature which the MDX does not have.
3. The front camera has an "Auto display when obstacle is detected" which the MDX does not have.
4. The Pilot's Traffic Sign Recognition System has a "Speed Limit Warning Threshold Setting" unlike the MDX
5. The Pilot appears to have more interior room than the MDX.
6. The Pilot uses the Bose sound system with 12 speakers vs. the 16 speaker ELS system in the MDX.
7. Of course, the Pilot uses regular gas vs premium in the MDX.
8. The Pilot has 7 drive modes including Sport, Snow, Trail, Tow, Sand (?) etc. vs 4 on the MDX.
9. There are vents at the third row which the MDX does not have.
10. Almost all the features I have on my 2022 MDX Advance, however, are to be found on the 2023 Pilot Elite.
11. But the killer app as far as I am concerned, is the ability to remove and store the middle removable 2nd row seat fully, completely out of sight behind the third row, in the Pilot. It is the same removable middle seat as in the MDX. Somehow those who engineered the Pilot figured out how to do this unlike the team that worked on the MDX.

The only thing I could find that the MDX has over the Pilot is the automatic temperature setting for the driver and passenger seats. It appears you have to turn those on manually in the Pilot.:sneaky:

Now, in fairness, I am unable to compare quality of build, quality of materials, sound level etc. and, I admit, I may have missed some key feature differences since I have not sat in or driven the Pilot but just looking at the pictures and from these feature differences above, I am left wondering where the MDX's $10k+ price premium comes from.

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No, not really

I believe an Elite Pilot has everything that the Advance does and maybe a few it doesnt even have...heated wiper zone? and the Advance is $63.5 vs $52k for the Pilot so 11.5 more. Tech does have power folding mirrors but otherwise seems to look like a Touring and it is 8K more for that. Not sure what you are comparing to get to "less than 5K". If you are thinking you need to get an Elite Pilot just to get to the features of a Tech MDX then that isn't correct.
I was looking at Canadian Prices so could be different for US. We don't even have a tech Pilot.
This gets you the bulk of the same features and it's certainly not the 15k you mentioned.

Touring Pilot to Aspec MDX = 4950
Touring Pilot to Platinum Elite = 8950 to gain roof rails, Surround camera and HUD.

Also since I like the look of the Aspec I would probably spend the extra $1500 for the Black edition Pilot which then shrinks the difference even more.
I am wondering why JD Power rating fees pilot is more reliable than MDX. Also, among Luxury brands Acura comes at the bottom list. Is there a conspiracy going against Acura ??
Also, on paper Mazda CX 90 looks promising, another vehicle to eat up MDX’s base models market share.
Regarding all the extra length comments, what really surprised me lately is that minivans are waitlisted months, and hybrid minivans are waitlisted years. Seems like the "wont be seen in a minivan" feel is dying down in the upcoming family generation.

I was parked next to a same color Odyssey 6 months ago, and it surprised me (eg tried to open the door on the wrong car) that the 3rdgen MDX and Odyssey are nearly identical from a side profile except for the 3rd row. The Odyssey has that full size 3rd row, I still miss it after skinnying down to an MDX.

If Acura put their old MDX hybrid powertrain into an Odyssey chassis, with all the Acura features (except the stupid touchpad), I bet that chimera would be a surprise hit in a whole new Luxury Minivan category. They could give it suv-like body panels and wouldnt even have to call it a minivan.
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Has any one seen the media launch of Grand Highlander?? It’s serious competition to Pilot and MDX base models. Its Hybrid model has 362 net combined horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque. It has everything that is missing in 2023 Pilot and MDX base models.
Has any one seen the media launch of Grand Highlander?? It’s serious competition to Pilot and MDX base models. Its Hybrid model has 362 net combined horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque. It has everything that is missing in 2023 Pilot and MDX base models.
I haven't researched it in depth but did see the specs and pix. Looks pretty slick in my opinion. I think it pressures MDX base for sure, and also could pressure Pilot due to the more powerful and hybrid option.
I haven't researched it in depth but did see the specs and pix. Looks pretty slick in my opinion. I think it pressures MDX base for sure, and also could pressure Pilot due to the more powerful and hybrid option.
There is a possibility the price bands of the non Type S MDX and the Grand Highlander will overlap a lot.
There is a possibility the price bands of the non Type S MDX and the Grand Highlander will overlap a lot.
Yep I would think so. If Toyota is offering more space and more power and more efficiency that could still be attractive to some. Of course that would be for those who aren't as brand-conscious
We looked at pretty much all of the midsize suvs, and the current highlander body style did not appeal to us at all, and we have been Toyota loyalists for a very long time. Close friend of mine is a Acura fanatic, especially touting the dealer service …What’s really funny is that most of the segment really look just like each other!! the kias and Hyundais…23 pilot and now the grand highlander… man.. to me it really looks like the new pilot!!.. anyways… the 4gen MDX looks amazing to us… and NOT the Same..a true “sport utility vehicle”…sports car like manners… super happy with our choice…cheers!!
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^^^Agree!

Also, GV70 and GV80, not GX
GX needs to get rid of the "ambulance" rear door.
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