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As we approach the anniversary of the terror attacks on the United States, I want to offer a prayer for all the people who perished in the attacks, those who defend our country before, during and after the attacks and all the workers who helped in the recovery effort.

Stand tall and proud all my fellow Americans. In a time where a country is still healing, let’s show the world what the United States is made of.

We will never forgive. We will never forget.

God bless the wonderful country and all those that serve to protect it.
 

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jswift2000 said:

We will never forgive. We will never forget.
Oh, don't kid yourself, we will always forgive - as soon as swift justice and appropriate revenge is exacted . . . but we will never forget . . .

I second everything else.
 

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socalJD, way to ruin the mood :rolleyes:
i myself will never forgive those terrorists and bin laden and saddam even when they ARE dead. Sikhism, a monotheistic faith established about 500+ years ago in India was created to stop the oppression by the Muslims on the Hindus in the area. Our religion's basic principles are as follows: God is One, Respect everyone, equality for women and men... but a major distinction is in the way we look. Our Tenth profit, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, gave us a distinct identity to differentiate us from Muslims and Hindus. In India, we were the saviors, the warriors, the protector of freedom. Hindus looked up to us and we wanted to differentiate ourselves. We are not allowed to cut our hair or shave and we also wear a turban. We keep our hair b/c it was God's given gift to us and we wear a turban again to differentiate ourselves and because back then all the kings used to wear turbans. After 9/11 though, many people (mainly white trash) but people nonetheless mistook us for muslims and terrorists and we have been facing problems ever since. Many Sikhs have been killed because of their appearance. I know this is a long post, but I would just like to get the word out and educate people so they don't mistake us for something we're not. We fought against the Muslims back then, and if the time comes again, we will fight against them again if they oppress anyone... For more information on Sikhism, please visit http://www.sikhs.org/topics.htm

again, sorry for the long post...

bbmdx a fellow American Sikh:29:
 

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A great tribute!

TWIN TOWERS


They bent the steel
And shattered glass
Destroyed the families
Leveled our past

Their planning was precise
With targets set high
Choosing their weapons
As planes from the sky

A flight from fancy
This was not one
As their mission was terror
Ordered by Bin Laden

As the enemy struck
At the heart of the States
Many innocent citizens
Would meet their fate

The majestic twin towers
And fortified pentagon
Symbols of America
Were no longer icons

The casualties are countless
And the grief immense
For that Tuesday attack
Had no ready defense

The results were catastrophic
The U.S. at its knees
Shaking its' resolve
As we listened to pleas

A horror unimagined
An event never planned
Riveted the nation
Every women, child and man

The carnage unfolded
As we watched CNN
The enormity hit
Again and again

Fathers were lost
And mothers too
Children perished
Survivors were few

In the name of terrorism
This act complete
Our lives destroyed
Close to defeat


The heart of America
Are the people so willing
To face adversity
Amidst all the killing

With undue abandon
Rescue attempts started
Resulting in more families
Being forever parted

The tragedy was enormous
On each news flash
As the towers crumbled
Into rubble and ash

The chief commander
Faced a grieving nation
Shared their pain
And set forth a recommendation

An act of war
This cruel event
Would lead to retaliation
The message was sent

The pain overwhelming
The losses not known
Pressure was mounting
To defend our home

Infinite justice
Is to be our goal
For we will fight
With heart and soul

Evil has no home
When the allies defend
They will not waver
We will not bend

Recovery is imminent
Our desire is true
Despite tremendous sorrow
We will come through

For the spirit of America
Is an infinite resource
It will guide our future
And set the course

They bent the steel
And shattered glass
But the fallen heroes
Will link our past
 

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Hi Jswift2000:

___Thank you for the reminder. I wanted to post something in a few days myself but I agree with everything you said.

___I can forgive those that believed the attacks were means to an end as long as they have not only sworn off any terrorist attacks in the past, present, and future but have changed their own attitudes and beliefs to the most peaceful of co-existences. I can not however forgive those that participated nor can I forgive those that still believe it was justified to attack innocents as was done on 9/99/01. For those in the second camp, you will go to your graves only to answer for those deeds and ideas to the one true God.

___My prayers go out to those families that will always remember 09/11 as the day they lost family and friends. My prayers also go out to those that still grieve the losses that occurred that day. We all truly lost someone that day and I will never forget.

___I will close with a prayer from the 23rd Psalm ...

The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He makes me to lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside the still waters.
He restores my soul;
He leads me in the paths of righteousness
For His name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I shall fear no evil;
For You are with me;
Your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies;
You anoint my head with oil;
My cup runs over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
All the days of my life;
and I will dwell in the house of the Lord
Forever


___Amen

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___[email protected]
 

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Re: Re: We will never forget...

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Oh, don't kid yourself, we will always forgive - as soon as swift justice and appropriate revenge is exacted . . . but we will never forget . . .

I second everything else.
When asking most people male and female alike if they will forgive they may give some bs answer. All most everyone I know will never forgive and we want revenge. People are just hesitant to express how they feel because it still hurts so much.
 

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My personal tribute to 9-11
 

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Enough of the bickering folks, that's not what remembering those killed is about. It's about paying respect to all those who lost their lives.
 

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AMEN to that labor!!

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Enough of the bickering folks, that's not what remembering those killed is about. It's about paying respect to all those who lost their lives.
.......it just seems like it was yesterday!.....and two years have gone by! MAY THE LORD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND KEEP OUR NATION STRONG AND SECURE FROM ALL IT'S ENEMIES!!.......as we all know, in the end, GOOD WILL PREVAIL AGAINST EVIL!!
 

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BLACK-BLING-MDX said:
socalJD, way to ruin the mood :rolleyes:
i myself will never forgive those terrorists and bin laden and SADDAM even when they ARE dead.
Uhm excuse me, for I am ignorant...but...what did SADDAM do to you or to the USA in terms of harm?
 

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laborlitigator said:
Enough of the bickering folks, that's not what remembering those killed is about. It's about paying respect to all those who lost their lives.
Thank you. Stop the bickering. As my baby was crawling up the stairs last evening, it hit me like a ton of bricks that I have to explain this to her. Explain evil and hatred; why someone would fly planes into building and hurt innocent people.

ndahbar - I believe that Saddam harbored terrorists. But... does that matter as we approach this terrible reminder in US history. You guys need to quit the childish bullsh!t. 2900 people died two years ago and you bicker? :confused:
 

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ndahbar said:


Uhm excuse me, for I am ignorant...but...what did SADDAM do to you or to the USA in terms of harm?
Ndahbar,

If you want to voice your opinion regarding the merits of Iraq, I'd suggest you start a thread. However, doing it here is not appropriate. It's akin to going to a wake and talking to his relatives about how the deceased may have cheated on his wife.
 

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I am absolutely sure that I will never forget as I was there on 9/11. I used to work at the WTC and seeing with my own eyes and hearing the first plane hit and the second plane hit and then people jumping out of buildings is something you will never ever forget. Also, running for your life when the buildings collapsed and seeing the smoke and ash coming right down the street is like watching a movie except your are in it.
Hope, America never forgets and eventually Bin Laden will pay (perhaps drop him out of a 100 story building will help me to forgive).
 

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I will also never forgive and forget what happened on September 11, 2001. I work in midtown, I didnt see what many saw in person downtown but I felt the same pain that all New Yorkers felt when news of what happened hit. It felt like there was a void in all our hearts and souls, to be violated and targeted so close to home is a feeling we never felt before.
Walking the streets of NYC over the Queens boro bridge was a erie feeling. Thousands of people walking yet it was as silent as a Sunday morning with no one in sight. The skys were a beautiful blue that day and it would have been beautiful if it werent for what happened.
We want revenge and perhaps one day we will get it. For now we have to deal with our homeland and try to protect each other as best we can. For those NYers here keep in mind terrorism in NYC has not ended. One day something might happen again, who knows when, where, or how but I believe these bastards will attack again and we have to keep our eyes open and not forget who our enemies are.
Stay alert!
 

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There is currently a thread going on for the Micheal Moore movie if you want to discuss it, please do so in that thread.
 

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MDX350 said:
Anyone seen "BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE" by Michael Moore? Its at blockbuster now.

A MUST SEE, ABSOLUTELY!!! one of the most accurate portrayals of history.

Kind of puts things in perspective.
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to check it out.
 

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FYI: PBS is running a the engineerial view of how the Towers collapsed. . .
 

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laborlitigator said:
FYI: PBS is running a the engineerial view of how the Towers collapsed. . .
Watched it, very interesting stuff.
 

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There will be 15 different specials this week on various network & cable channels re: 911.

In regards to the effect the attack had in the US ...........you didn't have to live in NYC, or DC or know anyone hurt or killed on 911 to be affected. My daughter (who is 25) is still terrified to fly now (and wasn't before). My family hates when I travel for business now & worry more than in the past about something happening to my flight.

This act of terrorism was an act of cowardice by people that hate the US and all it stands for, however, I hope that this great country doesn't turn into a country that hates everyone of a certain race or appearance (remember Nazi Germany?) simply because they "look like terrorists"................if that happens, then the terrorists have won.
 
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