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I'm the crazy guy who came up with the "Video On My Navi" modification for my family Odyssey van w/ navigation system. I've had one or two people put them in MDX's as well. I just couldn't stand having that monitor there without the ability to play video! It was also the need to queue up DVD movies for kids rear ceiling mounted display.
In short there are two basic ways to place "Video On My Navi".
1. Using a Pioneer AVC-RGB1 decoder (discontinued by Pioneer and now a little difficult to find). This solution gives you the ability to play NTSC composite video (yellow RCA type plug) video on the navigation screen with a flip of a switch. For audio you will need to buy a RF modulator or CD cassette adapter.
2. Using a Pioneer GEX-P7000TV that has built-in TV tuner, 2 A/V inputs, 1 rear A/V output, built-in RF modulator and wireless remote controller. This unit also requires you use a Pioneer rear display ceiling mount AVD-W6000 + CD-30RGB or AVD-W6010 center console mount monitor to be fully functional. The real advantage of this design is 2 A/V inputs, wireless remote control to switch between Navi display, TV. A/V 1 or A/V 2 on the navi display and rear monitor between TV, A/V 1 or A/V 2 (independent of navi screen).
Both designs require electrical modifications to the Pioneer parts.
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In short there are two basic ways to place "Video On My Navi".
1. Using a Pioneer AVC-RGB1 decoder (discontinued by Pioneer and now a little difficult to find). This solution gives you the ability to play NTSC composite video (yellow RCA type plug) video on the navigation screen with a flip of a switch. For audio you will need to buy a RF modulator or CD cassette adapter.
2. Using a Pioneer GEX-P7000TV that has built-in TV tuner, 2 A/V inputs, 1 rear A/V output, built-in RF modulator and wireless remote controller. This unit also requires you use a Pioneer rear display ceiling mount AVD-W6000 + CD-30RGB or AVD-W6010 center console mount monitor to be fully functional. The real advantage of this design is 2 A/V inputs, wireless remote control to switch between Navi display, TV. A/V 1 or A/V 2 on the navi display and rear monitor between TV, A/V 1 or A/V 2 (independent of navi screen).
Both designs require electrical modifications to the Pioneer parts.
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When I first started telling people I could do this, it was a concern. I guess an old Acura TL design/designer had tried to "rig" his display and overdrove it, blowing it out. My voltage measurements are .7v p-p, this is the same output your navi computer outputs and after 30+ installs over a year not one blown screen.
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Video on my navi....
First thanks to VideoNavi for his generosity in sharing the instructions on the product modification he undertook. I have the ACV RGB1 and it is at the process of going through the mods necessary to hook up the navi screen. I will post pics as soon as I install it on the X. This unit is hard to find as he said because it has been discontinued, this part is a Japanese unit, not a US one. You can find this unit for about $ 99.00 to $ 130.00. The modification at my local stereo shop will cost $ 100 - 120 plus necessary hardware like video cables, etc... I will let everyone know how the install goes. I do have questions for VideoNavi. Is it okey to use a relay switch instead of a 4PDt switch? Was there a particular reason you chose the 4PDT switch in place of the relay, would not the relay be a more reliable swicth than a 4PDT? Thanks in advance.....
First thanks to VideoNavi for his generosity in sharing the instructions on the product modification he undertook. I have the ACV RGB1 and it is at the process of going through the mods necessary to hook up the navi screen. I will post pics as soon as I install it on the X. This unit is hard to find as he said because it has been discontinued, this part is a Japanese unit, not a US one. You can find this unit for about $ 99.00 to $ 130.00. The modification at my local stereo shop will cost $ 100 - 120 plus necessary hardware like video cables, etc... I will let everyone know how the install goes. I do have questions for VideoNavi. Is it okey to use a relay switch instead of a 4PDt switch? Was there a particular reason you chose the 4PDT switch in place of the relay, would not the relay be a more reliable swicth than a 4PDT? Thanks in advance.....
The 4PDT switch was in the original modification kit built when I recommended the AVC-RGB1 be mounted behind the navigation screen. In the deluxe design it became a 4PDT relay (Radio Shack part) so you could also turn on a RF modulator at the same time. Now with the ability to place the AVC-RGB1 behind the navi computer (DVD unit), the relay and socket makes better sense. You can run a single wire to a standard or lighted dash mounted switch.
Another advantage to having a relay is you can trigger your navi screen to display video for a reverse back-up camera. (this will require another SPDT relay to A/B select your video source too). I'm doing that for my wife's Honda Odyssey van right now. She has all the gadgets... in-dash DVD player, 2 separate "Video on my Navi" designs and back sensors giving her distance in feet and 3x3 A/V switcher. Of course she is also my R&D test pilot!
Another advantage to having a relay is you can trigger your navi screen to display video for a reverse back-up camera. (this will require another SPDT relay to A/B select your video source too). I'm doing that for my wife's Honda Odyssey van right now. She has all the gadgets... in-dash DVD player, 2 separate "Video on my Navi" designs and back sensors giving her distance in feet and 3x3 A/V switcher. Of course she is also my R&D test pilot!
Last time I was looking through your post you mentioned that you thought that the GEX-P7000 was a better unit to use for this modification. Is that still your thinking? I think that the modifications instructions that I saw were for the AVC-RGB1. Do you have a link to detailed instructions for the GEX.. unit? It sounds like it is not necessary to to go behind the dash to make this mod -- Just access the wires where they go into the DVD unit. Is that true? Have you found connectors that can be used for a wiring harness or do you have to clip/splice wires? If these questions have been answered in some other forum, I'd appreciate the link. If anyone else reading this has done this mod, could you post picks? 
Sorry for all the questions -- I'm very excited about this mod.
I like the idea of the backup camera. Which unit are you using for the backup sensor and where did you get it?
Sorry for all the questions -- I'm very excited about this mod.I like the idea of the backup camera. Which unit are you using for the backup sensor and where did you get it?
Yes, the GEX-P7000TV is a better solution, but it requires you also connect a $549 or $599 6.5" Pioneer AVD-W6000 or AVD-W6010 monitor to the GEX unit as well to make all functions work properly. The AVD-W6000 has a ceiling and headrest mounting kit and AVD-W6010 comes with detachable mounting base that people have used for back of center console. The GEX is a better unit for the following reasons: built-in TV tuner, wireless remote control (no need to mount dash switch, simply place an IR eye on/or in the dash behind smoked plastic [like the clock]), built-in FM modulator, 2 source A/V inputs and a rear A/V output that is connected to the AVD-W60xx monitor. With this setup your rear monitor can display a different source than what is on the navi display, all controlled by the remote control and navi display. Using the control panel on the AVD-W60xx monitor you can also have it display the navi screen map! Kids like this for whatever reason... I don't give out the modification directions for the GEX-P7000TV, but can be talked into selling themor doing the modifications for you w/parts and hook-up instructions. If buying a GEX-P7000TV don't forget to also buy the Pioneer AN-G3 mobile TV antenna and if going with AVD-W6000 monitor a Pioneer CD-30RGB cable and mount. All together it's about a $1K mod, but well worth it.TC said:Last time I was looking through your post you mentioned that you thought that the GEX-P7000 was a better unit to use for this modification. Is that still your thinking? I think that the modifications instructions that I saw were for the AVC-RGB1. Do you have a link to detailed instructions for the GEX.. unit? It sounds like it is not necessary to to go behind the dash to make this mod -- Just access the wires where they go into the DVD unit. Is that true? Have you found connectors that can be used for a wiring harness or do you have to clip/splice wires? If these questions have been answered in some other forum, I'd appreciate the link. If anyone else reading this has done this mod, could you post picks?
I like the idea of the backup camera. Which unit are you using for the backup sensor and where did you get it?
As for your question on AVC-RGB1. Yes, it's easier to hook it up behind the navi computer using wires from the 2nd or middle plug. Since I haven't been able to locate the factory plugs it does require you cut 4 wires and "t tap" 3 others. If you ever wish to remove the decoder it's simply a matter of using butt connectors to put them back together.
For my back-up sensor unit it's a Poron mini-3p (www.poronusa.com). The display unit mounts on top the rear view mirror (not under it like they show) and the sensors are pretty darn small. I've mounted them on the lower lip of the tailgate.
Note: back-up camera will not work with GEX unit (unless you decide to use 1 A/V input for camera). Auto switching back-up camera was a design for AVC-RGB1 w/relay.
The Navi screen is excellent for DVD playback. It's a TFT display and I'm sure it's at least 360K pixel count. The navi computer's colors are limited, so it doesn't appear to be a very good display- but it is! Running the video signal to the display in RGB makes the colors very rich.
To switch between navi and video you can use a dash mounted switch. A few Acura-TL people have mounted this switch in the blank fog light switch cover.
To switch between navi and video you can use a dash mounted switch. A few Acura-TL people have mounted this switch in the blank fog light switch cover.
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Re: Can someone post a link to the instructions please?
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25782
It's about the 7th post down from the top.
Thanks!
-Jay
Try this link:solomon said:Sounds very interesting, but either I'm search-stupid or just missing it
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25782
It's about the 7th post down from the top.
Thanks!
-Jay
Got it, thanks! More questions for Steve...
I'm pretty weak on video, so please bear with me....
Ok, so the NAV display takes RGB and Composite Sync. What's special about the AVC-RGB1? Could one pump signal from some other RGBs source? I assume the thing runs the standard NTSC display mode, so would any source putting out that resolution on RGBs work?
I expected the input to the display to be native LCD mode, so I'm caught a little off-guard by how standard the input is! I guess the AVC-RGB1 is the simplest solution, since most everything can drive composite video - I'm just thinking about what other types of sources I can use.
Thanks in advance,
Richard
I'm pretty weak on video, so please bear with me....
Ok, so the NAV display takes RGB and Composite Sync. What's special about the AVC-RGB1? Could one pump signal from some other RGBs source? I assume the thing runs the standard NTSC display mode, so would any source putting out that resolution on RGBs work?
I expected the input to the display to be native LCD mode, so I'm caught a little off-guard by how standard the input is! I guess the AVC-RGB1 is the simplest solution, since most everything can drive composite video - I'm just thinking about what other types of sources I can use.
Thanks in advance,
Richard
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Schematic Check - Steve
Hi Steve,
Could you look over my interpretation of your instructions and see if everything looks right. Also please see the next post for wiring questions. Thanks for your help!
-Jay
Hi Steve,
Could you look over my interpretation of your instructions and see if everything looks right. Also please see the next post for wiring questions. Thanks for your help!
-Jay
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Wiring Hookup at NAV unit
Hi Steve,
Can you tell me if I have the right white, red, green and yellow wires?
Looking at the back of the NAV unit there are 5 connectors.
Pictured are connectors #2 through #5, connector #1 (the single wire connector is off to the left of the photo).
So, my questions is... Is this the right connector?
Thank you!
Take care,
-Jay
Hi Steve,
Can you tell me if I have the right white, red, green and yellow wires?
Looking at the back of the NAV unit there are 5 connectors.
Pictured are connectors #2 through #5, connector #1 (the single wire connector is off to the left of the photo).
So, my questions is... Is this the right connector?
Thank you!
Take care,
-Jay
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Jay,
Your wiring chart is correct. The connector is the only one with a white,red,yellow and green wire. I can't tell from your picture exactly, but it looks like the one still plugged in to the right. Keep in mind you can use a 4PDT 12vdc relay from Radio Shack instead of a 4PDT switch. Also remember to cut your wires (shown in your picture)1.5" to 2" back from the connector. That way you can always reconnect things.
Power for your AVC-RGB1 can be picked up (t-tapped) from the 1st connector on the back of the navi computer (connector to the left of one with white,red,yellow,green wires). With the connector plugged in Pin 1 in upper left corner is constant power, pin 2 is Accessory and black wire pin 4 in upper right corner is GND.
Enjoy the show!
VideoNavi
Your wiring chart is correct. The connector is the only one with a white,red,yellow and green wire. I can't tell from your picture exactly, but it looks like the one still plugged in to the right. Keep in mind you can use a 4PDT 12vdc relay from Radio Shack instead of a 4PDT switch. Also remember to cut your wires (shown in your picture)1.5" to 2" back from the connector. That way you can always reconnect things.
Power for your AVC-RGB1 can be picked up (t-tapped) from the 1st connector on the back of the navi computer (connector to the left of one with white,red,yellow,green wires). With the connector plugged in Pin 1 in upper left corner is constant power, pin 2 is Accessory and black wire pin 4 in upper right corner is GND.
Enjoy the show!
VideoNavi
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Thank you!
I'll double check the wires, I'm pretty sure the connector shown is the only one that matched the white,red,yellow and green. There was another yellow wire on this connector but after close inspection it is yellow/white.
I will also investigate the power wiring.
I picked up the relay and socket at Radio Shack last night, I'll go with this option for the switching.
Thanks again for your input,
-Jay
I'll double check the wires, I'm pretty sure the connector shown is the only one that matched the white,red,yellow and green. There was another yellow wire on this connector but after close inspection it is yellow/white.
I will also investigate the power wiring.
I picked up the relay and socket at Radio Shack last night, I'll go with this option for the switching.
Thanks again for your input,
-Jay
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