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This is not intended as a comparo just a odd turn of events. The wife and I decided to go test drive the GMC Envoy mostly because of the MT SUV award and the commercials which basically shamed us into test driving an american car. GM is also offering $2002 cash back which certainly doesn't hurt.

Anyhow, I was impressed with the sheer number of gadjets in the Envoy and at a Carsdirect.com price of about $34 you do get a lot of doodads for your money. They certainly offer more techie things than the MDX although some features like rain sensitive wipers are of questionable necessity.:confused:

Anyhow, after the test drive the salesman configured the car all the while making silly comments like, "This car can go for 100K miles without an oil change. They don't recommend it but it can." :rolleyes: I think the poor imbecile confused himself with the tune-up. Anyhow, then the manager came over and of course tried the hard sell approach which wasn't going to even budge the wife and myself. He asked what other SUV's we had looked at we told him the QX4 and the MDX. He said, "MDX's are hard to get." I agreed! They laid down a quote about 2K higher than carsdirect.com which I thought was gouging but hey, I guess someone would have paid for it. :eek: Not me! :p

Anyway, after we were done we decided to go up to the Acura Dealership to see if they could tell us when we would get the SS Nav that we put a down payment on. At this point, it's almost a joke, we've had a down payment on it since July and we almost scrapped the whole thing in September to buy a QX4 but it didn't work out. We had the QX4 all lined up to pick-up but our pick-up date was 9/11 and our insurance co. closed early. The next day the wife and I canceled our order because my company works directly with the airlines and United is one of our accounts. :(

As it turns out my company had some lay-offs but I wasn't. Still we wanted to be safe and we didn't know if my job would be safe so we opted to commute together to work until things changed.

Way back in July when we put the down payment on the SS Nav we were told that they time frame was somewhere early in 2002 but the salesman didn't give me any hard information. He was friendly and the car was going for MSRP so I decided to go ahead and do it. Well I haven't heard from them since so I didn't have much confidence walking into Acura of Milford Sunday night. As it turns out they were closing up for the night but a salesman asked us if he could help us. We told him the situation and he asked us our name. We told him and he said, "oh yeah, you ordered the SS with Nav. You're on the next allocation, I have the build date on my desk." We followed him stunned and he showed us our name on a list next to vehicles along with about 7 or 8 others. He said the build dates are 2/9-2/12 and I can expect it maybe the second but probably the third week in Feb.

So now I've waited patiently for almost 6 months now without any real anxiousness because I didn't want the car during the period of uncertainty and now I'm finding the last few weeks extraordinarily frustrating. The wife and I are very excited, she just wants a second car again and one that has the cargo space that she's been wanting and I can't wait to get a hold of that Nav system that I haven't even seen in action since our test drive was a touring w/o Nav. :D How does anyone stand it in the final stretch? :confused:
 

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....."How does anyone stand it in the final stretch?"

Three simple words. It ain't easy! LOL!!! :D

But, OH! It'll be worth it! I'm excited for you and your wife. :) I enjoyed reading your post on the Envoy and I look forward to hearing about you getting that SS MDX!:D
 

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Victor, hang in there, muh man! The MDX is definitely worth it, especially compared to the (ugh!) Envoy (nice styling, tho).

What area of the US are you located? It seems you are having a loooooong lead time, compared to some other areas of the country. Have you shopped at other dealers in-state and out-of-state?
 

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Why the wait?

I think you made the right choice, but why did you have to wait so long? I put my deposit down in late July and got it on 11/16 - the second shipment of 2002's this dealer got.

Hope you get it soon!
 

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I live in Connecticut and I guess I chose a small dealership but one that treated me fairly and with respect. I suppose I could have gone with another dealership, Acura of Norwalk but they were forcing $2000 worth of accessories or as a "courtesy" $800 over MSRP for no accessories. This is price gouging pure and simple and I wasn't going to support it. So I opted for the dealership with the loooong wait.

If there's any justice in business these dealers who are taking advantage of us will reap their just rewards. For my part I will never take my lucrative service business to Norwalk as I know this is really where it will hurt them.

By the way, is it typical for Acura to give a loaner car when the car is in the shop?
 

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Never hurt to compare

Even a comparison appears to be straightforward, it never hurt to compare sometimes. We may be so used to so many nice things on the MDX that sometimes we *forget* how the others are like.. :p I have tested BMW, Mercedez Benz, Lexus, Highlander, Jeep V8, etc. before buying.
 

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I agree about taking your time and comparing. Lord knows, I've had a lot of time to compare. I almost stopped waiting and just gave in to what I considered a viable alternative, the QX4. I had a nice low $440 3 year lease deal all set up and then the world was shaken up and I canceled the deal. So I spent the time saving some money up and commuting with my wife. All-in-all I think I'm happy how things turned out. I still like the QX4 but I can't get over the poor safety record which in the end is more important than stuff like interior luxury.

The MDX will cost more, I'm looking at a 4 year lease of about $525 per month probably which is more than I'd like but...
 

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Victor said:
By the way, is it typical for Acura to give a loaner car when the car is in the shop?
Yes, it is. Every Acura dealer I've used for service has offered a loaner car.
 

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Acura provides loaners as long as u are coming in for service that requires more than a couple of hours(atleast thats what my dealer told me).

btw, smart of u to pass on the Envoy- it just got recalled--AGAIN!!
 

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Victor said:
By the way, is it typical for Acura to give a loaner car when the car is in the shop?
I gather from what people have said here, it's standard procedure. My dealer loans 2000 TL's, even on oil changes. But you have to make the reservation about 10 days in advance to get one.

From what I can tell, if you have a good dealer, your gonna love the service. I know I do. But there are some horror stories out there with some of the dealers, so if you're not being treated well, and you have a choice, take your business elsewhere.
 
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