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Strut/Suspension question

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Ever since my MDX experienced a violent thud on a highway, I am wondering if my struts are bad/weak. I don't see any fluid leak but the vehicle moves(rocks) side to side when pushed on either side on top of the frame. I am not heavy built so I am sure not applying too much force to make it move. Similar test on my TXL results in near zero movement(I know MDX is taller and heavy).

Do I feel my MDX swaying during heavy winds(around 20-30 mph) on a highway? I think so.
Does it nose dive upon braking, not sure.
Kind of feel rear driver side strut bounce on highway when I sit on the middle row. Get the bouncy/vibration feel via the middle seat

So, my question is ... How to confirm if the shocks(dampers) are bad with no visible leak. Can they go bad without leaking the fluid?

I recently replaced the struts on my 1997 Accord and could immediately tell how great the car drives after replacement. Steering felt loose prior to strut replacement and driver side strut was leaking fluid so the decision to replace was easy.
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I don't think struts will have much of an effect on moving the vehicle side to side unless you really mean it's bouncing up and down when you're pushing it. Struts work in the vertical dimension. Maybe you mean it's see-sawing side to side more than you'd expect.

The MDX is taller with a higher center of gravity and a heavier vehicle than a TLX so it's going to behave a little differently when trying to rock it side to side - i.e. the movement sb more pronounced in the MDX.

A strut can go bad without leaking. There can be problems with internally leaking seals and with the external bushings that might get torn or worn and compressed (thereby being more loose).

If you know of another MDX you can bounce around you might be able to push on it and compare the two. A good experienced mechanic familiar with the MDX model might also be able to tell if a strut is faulty or not.

Alternatively, depending on age an mileage and how long you plan to keep the vehicle you could just replace the struts anyway. My 2014 has about 105K miles and the struts still behave fine but if I suspected them and if I was planning to keep the vehicle to 200K miles or more then it's possible I might decide to just replace them proactively/preventatively to then not touch them for another 100K miles. Strut replacement is expensive though so I wouldn't just casually replace them out of hope that it's whatever problem you think you're having.
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I don't think struts will have much of an effect on moving the vehicle side to side unless you really mean it's bouncing up and down when you're pushing it. Struts work in the vertical dimension. Maybe you mean it's see-sawing side to side more than you'd expect.

The MDX is taller with a higher center of gravity and a heavier vehicle than a TLX so it's going to behave a little differently when trying to rock it side to side - i.e. the movement sb more pronounced in the MDX.

A strut can go bad without leaking. There can be problems with internally leaking seals and with the external bushings that might get torn or worn and compressed (thereby being more loose).

If you know of another MDX you can bounce around you might be able to push on it and compare the two. A good experienced mechanic familiar with the MDX model might also be able to tell if a strut is faulty or not.

Alternatively, depending on age an mileage and how long you plan to keep the vehicle you could just replace the struts anyway. My 2014 has about 105K miles and the struts still behave fine but if I suspected them and if I was planning to keep the vehicle to 200K miles or more then it's possible I might decide to just replace them proactively/preventatively to then not touch them for another 100K miles. Strut replacement is expensive though so I wouldn't just casually replace them out of hope that it's whatever problem you think you're having.
Yes I should have said see-sawing, thank you for correcting me. I agree with your suggestions and will see if I can find another similar MDX to test. My only worry is if I take it to a mechanic with my findings, they will suggest replacing the struts since the vehicle has over 75K miles. With struts, only way to confirm is after taking them apart, if I get that far, I rather prefer to replace since I plan to keep the vehicle many more years.
Like many youTubers say... struts/shocks are not a regular maintenance items and most often daily drivers do not notice performance degradation since it happens slowly over time even without leaking.
It can be lowkey the tie rods or the rack. I’m kinda going through that problem currently
I hit some good sized pot holes in town in my 2016 tech sh-awd, eventually my mdx started making creaking sounds when going up a drive way, or speed bumps. Acura dealer eventually replaced the left and right struts, but they did it under the extended warranty. I believe they were $600 each, so $1200, which broke me even with the cost of the extended warranty, which was around $1200. Besides the creaking sound, car drove fine it felt, after struts replaced, creaking sound went away.
I hit some good sized pot holes in town in my 2016 tech sh-awd, eventually my mdx started making creaking sounds when going up a drive way, or speed bumps. Acura dealer eventually replaced the left and right struts, but they did it under the extended warranty. I believe they were $600 each, so $1200, which broke me even with the cost of the extended warranty, which was around $1200.
You had the air suspension cause ain’t no way
Update... Took it to the dealership for evaluation, they say to replace all 4(fronts have excessive movement) struts for $3400. Another indy shop says front lower control arm bushings are torn and need replaced as well, grand total $4350.
I am looking on advise for best and low cost path forward(I contacted my insurance and they are most likely going to deny since there is no visible physical damage). Since I don't feel the vehicle is 100% fit for highway travel, I plan get necessary repairs done out of pocket.
I can get OEM parts online and get them installed, any other cost saving suggestions are welcome :)
Anyone in Chicago Suburbs done similar work on their MDX? any shop recommendations?
Update.... shopped around a bit, found an independent mechanic/owner shop that will do all 4 struts and front LCA for $800 labor. Only thing I am still debating on is should I go all OEM or split between OEM and aftermarket.

Option 1: All EOM from online stores - costs around $1400 parts(12month /12K mile warranty)
Option 2: Front struts OEM and rears(SenSen) & LCA(Duralast) from Autozone(lifetime warranty is tempting), costs around $1500 parts

What do you think? I am leaning towards all OEM.
Surprised.... no response from anyone
I would go OE on all 4 wheels.
I changed all four struts at around 115K miles. I used OEM, in fact I couldn’t find any aftermarket struts anywhere. If you mix between the two, the shock valving may be different enough to alter the handling somewhat.

Your money, your choice.
I've replaced both front and rear and went with OEM. The originals lasted 100k and 115k so I'm happy with putting those back in.

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Fronts in my 2020 advance (adaptive dampers) were replaced once and rears twice, all under CPO. Very bumpy city driving and I'm nearing 70k miles.

I recall the would-have-cost quotes from the dealer were crazy, I think $2k per corner front and $1k per corner rear, though I could be mis-remembering.
Ordered all(4 struts & front LCA) OE parts from Curry Acura, can't wait for them to arrive and get it installed :)
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