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I purchased an oil filter from Tim for my MDX 2002, also purchased oil filter from Honda dealer for my Accord 1996 and the filter is exactly the same for both cars, which is fine but I just want to confirm if anyone knows that they really uses the same filter. Thanks.
 

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yup - the Honda filter fits a bunch of the models.
 

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Solid said:
I purchased an oil filter from Tim for my MDX 2002, also purchased oil filter from Honda dealer for my Accord 1996 and the filter is exactly the same for both cars, which is fine but I just want to confirm if anyone knows that they really uses the same filter. Thanks.
Yep the filters that I get from Tim fits my MDX, my wifes 3.2 TL, and my son's 1996 Civic EX:4: :4: :4:
 

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RE:Oil filter

Anybody know who makes the filters for Acura/Honda?
Tom
 

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I believe I saw a thread on this somewhere (maybe on s2ki.com:p ), but I thought others had stated they were similar or identical to Frams...
 

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Anybody know who makes the filters for Acura/Honda?
On the filter I just bought for my '03, it says "MANUFACTURED BY FRAM" right on the filter. BTW, the filter is completely different for the '03 compared to the '01-'02. Part #15400-PLM-A01 or A02.
 

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Excellent!Catzx6

Hi Catzx6:Thanks for the headsup on the filter manufacture.I can get those thru one of the WDs that I call on.
Tom:4:
 

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Honda = Fram???

I have been doing some research on filters for Honda's (my wife's Accord) and was surprised and disaapointed to find out that Honda Canada filters were made by Fram. I found this info at http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml . I knew that the quality of Fram filters was very poor and could not believe that Honda would use them. I decided to see for myself and cut open 11 different filters. This is what the Honda Canada filter looks like inside. (Fram on the left) Good design features are:
1. Silicone rubber anti-drain back valve for good low temperature sealing
2. high quality "O Ring" type gasket seal
Poor features are:
1. paper end caps on filter element
2. Plastic relief valve that does not seal completely
3. Relief valve "seals" against the paper end cap and allows bypass flow
4. The Anti drain back valve also "seals" against the paper end cap.

My conclusion - I'm not using Honda Canada's filter!!!!
 

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More Honda filter photos

This is the filter base and sealing ring
 

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This shows the orange anti-drain back valve.
 

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I wonder what a better filter than the Honda one? ;)
 

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This is the plastic relief valve
 

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Honda USA Filter

This is the filter that was installed by the factory on my wife's 2003 Accord (made in Ohio) 'm not sure if it is the same as what you buy over the counter in USA or not. Appears to have a very large filtration area. The relief valve has a metal to metal seal and may allow some minor bypass flow. It is completely different than the Honda Canada filter.

When I get my new MDX, I will remove the filter and cut it open as well to see if the originally installed filter is the same as the over-the-couter one in Canada.

48 pleats in filter cartridge. Pleat depth is 0.500”

Cartridge height 2.430”
 

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Honda USA Filter

This is the relief valve assembly
 

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Another shot of the relief valve
 

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Honda USA Filter

This is a view inside the filter element.

Many holes in inner metal support for good flow.
 

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Fram PH6811

As you can see - this filter is very similar to the Honda Canada filter.
 

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Cardboard end caps on filter element and plastic relief valve assembly. The relief valve assembly "seals" against the cardboard end cap. This poor seal will allow dirty oil to bypass.
 

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Fram PH6811

This view is with the relief valve disassembled. The plastic poppet has small moulding flashings that prevent a positive seal and thus will allow some bypass flow of dirty oil.
 

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Fram PH6811

This shows the oil inlet flow holes and the orange silicone anti drain back valve.
 

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