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Some of you are predicting that HIDS will be offered on the 2003 MDX. I highly doubt it because HIDS on a SUV require the auto leveling feature like the the RX 300. Acura would have to increase the msrp quite a bit to compensate for the cost of the auto leveling HIDs.
 

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Could be an option like anything else

They wouldn't have to increase MSRP unless they were including HIDs as part of standard equipment.

The RX300 and ML has it as an option. Audi does the same thing. Acura could offer it as a factory installed option for a few hundred extra dollars without touching base MSRP. The people that wanted them could pay more....
 

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True they could, but ...

... Acura does not offer dealer installed options, except for the Nav. They only offer accessories that can be installed by the buyer or the dealer.
 

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For those of you interested in H.I.D. lighting check out WWW.HIDS4LESS.COM .I had to opportunity to ask them a few questions about their retrofit kits and was pleasantly surprised to get answers that were honest and timely.Their kits can be retrofitted to virtually any vehicle and are true "plug and play" so no brain surgery to get them in your vehicle.No sadly they are not street legal but in this day and age I doubt the Police would even notice another bright set of headlamps.I plan to order mine soon.The average price seems to be about 550.00 but can be higher if you elect to go with their 6000 k series bulbs.Jens
 

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cruisemaster said:
Some of you are predicting that HIDS will be offered on the 2003 MDX. I highly doubt it because HIDS on a SUV require the auto leveling feature like the the RX 300. Acura would have to increase the msrp quite a bit to compensate for the cost of the auto leveling HIDs.
This is a myth. HIDs in the US or Canada are not required to have any sort of leveling systems whatsoever (they're mandatory in Europe though, even with halogen headlamps). However, the manufacturers with the better setups have them, as well as headlamp washing systems.
 

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Just to comment on HID's, I do not understand why people want these so bad. I have them on my present car and they are ok but not what I would consider necessary. Granted everyone has their own preferences, it is just my opinion that they are not that big of a deal. Granted, for this price range, one would think they were at least part of the touring pkg.

It seems like people want to have the brightest lights on their autos so maybe that is the draw. Since I am one of those few people that do not drive around with my driving lights and my headlights on, that could explain it.

Just my .02

I will be looking to get an MDX later this year and this site has been very helpful in getting me familiar with the MDX and the buying process.

Thanks

Dan
 

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Victor said:
What is auto-leveling anyway?
Basically there are sensors that monitor the altitude of the vehicles front and rear axles so that if you're climbing up or going down hills, bumps, etc., the system adjusts the light beams instantaneously so that they remain "hugged" to the road. This way, they do not blind oncoming drivers. None of Acura's HID systems (TL, CL, RL) have autoleveling, hence they are significantly less expensive than the ones with auto leveling and headlamp washer systems.
 

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so that if you're climbing up or going down hills, bumps, etc., the system adjusts the light beams instantaneously so that they remain "hugged" to the road.
That would have to be a very sophisticated system if the levers worked that way--considering the time that the car is in the bump may only be a couple of seconds. Plus, just because you're climbing a hill doesn't mean you don't need to see the same distance down the road.

Most HID leveling systems (automatic or manual) are designed to compensate for the particular load you are carrying. For example, if you are carrying more passengers or luggage and the rear is lower, the headlights would adjust down so that it wouldn't blind on coming traffic. If you were carrying a lighter load and the rear was raised, the headlights would adjust up in order to illuminate the road properly.

Of course, if you have self-leveling suspension on your car, you wouldn't need levelers on your HID ;).
 

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That would have to be a very sophisticated system if the levers worked that way--considering the time that the car is in the bump may only be a couple of seconds. Plus, just because you're climbing a hill doesn't mean you don't need to see the same distance down the road.

Most HID leveling systems (automatic or manual) are designed to compensate for the particular load you are carrying. For example, if you are carrying more passengers or luggage and the rear is lower, the headlights would adjust down so that it wouldn't blind on coming traffic. If you were carrying a lighter load and the rear was raised, the headlights would adjust up in order to illuminate the road properly.

Of course, if you have self-leveling suspension on your car, you wouldn't need levelers on your HID ;).
I know on my Lexus GS the autolevel is pretty real-time. I can actually see the light angle "change" when I accelerate from a stop and the rear lowers/front rises.
 

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That would have to be a very sophisticated system if the levers worked that way--considering the time that the car is in the bump may only be a couple of seconds. Plus, just because you're climbing a hill doesn't mean you don't need to see the same distance down the road.

Most HID leveling systems (automatic or manual) are designed to compensate for the particular load you are carrying. For example, if you are carrying more passengers or luggage and the rear is lower, the headlights would adjust down so that it wouldn't blind on coming traffic. If you were carrying a lighter load and the rear was raised, the headlights would adjust up in order to illuminate the road properly.

Of course, if you have self-leveling suspension on your car, you wouldn't need levelers on your HID ;).
Oh it would have to be a bigger bump of course, heh. The suspension system would absorb the smaller bumps.

Yes, one of the advantages of the system is that it levels itself if you have a heavier load in the rear. This is actually why you have to have them over in Europe. To adjust the beam downwards if you are towing or hauling a heavy load. The dynamic systems have sensors located on the front and the rear (usually the axles) of the vehicle. If one deviates from the other significantly enough, the system compensates.

You can still see about the same amount if you're on a hill. All it does is make sure that the beam doesn't shoot upwards unnecessarily high, hence blinding oncoming drivers (we've all had that happen before, I'm sure).
 

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Mikel said:
Auto-levelers for headlights? Next thing you're going to tell me there are French cars whose headlights "turn" around corners...
ummm, well Check out the new Jaguar. It will feature this.
(Note.. this is actually an old thing. I believe it was Ford who tired it out in the early 60's but it bombed out.

-harris
 

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All it does is make sure that the beam doesn't shoot upwards unnecessarily high, hence blinding oncoming drivers (we've all had that happen before, I'm sure).
When you are driving over the crest of a hill, shining the headlights in to the eyes of on-coming drivers is unavoidable with any headlamp system.

But my point is that it doesn't make sense for it to adjust the headlights, simply because you are driving up a hill.

When you are accelerating or stopping, the front end rises or lowers in relationship to the road. That makes sense for the HIDs to adjust--when the front and the rear of the car are not parallel to the road.

However, if you are simply driving up a hill, the car is still parallel to the road--why would you want to adjust the headlight? If I'm driving on a horizontal road and the HIDs illuminate 20 ft in front of me, I would still want the 20 ft in front of me illuminated when I drive up a hill--I wouldn't want it adjusted down.

Or are you saying that when you drive up a hill the front end rises higher than the rear? That doesn't make sense.
 

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Yeah I can't believe that my alarm keeps telling me "Your car is ajar." and I keeping telling it "you are on a car not on a jar..."

"To human is to Err..." I heard once from a quote...I guess when the software engineer program your voice assisted safty system and alarm...They should of used the word "opened" instead of "ajar."

We humans are too intelligent for our own good:D
 

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HID's as everyone know by now are not available on the MDX, and are not planned for the 2003 model. However the Honda Pilot will have a dealer installed option for rear video with the Navigation Screen used as the video panel. This system may be made available for the 2003 MDX as well.

Frankly, I don't really care what is on the european cars in Eupore, or what will be on the Ford Jaguar! I'm looking for useful MDX infor here, but then you know, my blood cells look like the Honda Logo when magnified :D ....

LUV MY X.
 

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HID's as everyone know by now are not available on the MDX, and are not planned for the 2003 model. However the Honda Pilot will have a dealer installed option for rear video with the Navigation Screen used as the video panel. This system may be made available for the 2003 MDX as well.

Frankly, I don't really care what is on the european cars in Eupore, or what will be on the Ford Jaguar! I'm looking for useful MDX infor here, but then you know, my blood cells look like the Honda Logo when magnified :D ....

LUV MY X.
Doctors thought I have a rare disease sickle Cell Anemia...But when they look closer at my blood cells...They see "A"cura logos..

RFLMAO!!!!
 
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