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Which is the BETTER ALL SEASON (with snow/ice capabilities) TIRES?

  • Continental ExtremeContact™ DWS06

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season PLUS

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • other option- please mention make/model

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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I'm seeking to purchase a brand new set of ALL SEASON tires that can be left on my 2009 Acura MDX during winter (I live in Midwest- MI area- crappy winters with lots of snow and ice). Ideally I'd like these ALL SEASON tires to be able to give me much better control in the WINTER season (in comparison to Acura- Michelin stock all seasons)- while realizing that I probably won't have as much control as the Pirelli Scorpion WINTER tires that I had been spoiled with the past couple winters) while rotating between two sets of wheels & tires....

Michigan winters can be very bad (lots of snow, ice, and deadly highway pileups)- so a traditional all season set with no snow/winter capabilities just won't cut it...I'd like something that will get me through the vicious Midwest winter, while also allowing me leave them on for adequate spring/summer driving without having to worry about tread-ware taking a beating (as would be the case if I had left a dedicated set of winter tires on my 2nd gen MDX)....

Help me choose please?...:surprise:
 

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I just upgraded to Conti DWS 06 a few weeks ago after +53,000 miles with the Conti DWS. I would have kept the old Conti DWS on longer if it was the beginning of summer instead of beginning of winter. So far, the DWS 06 handle just as well on the hwy, sound levels are very good, and road feel just as good as the older set. It has been extremely warm and dry lately to give them a test in the wet, snow, and ice in my area. I had pretty good winter success with the older DWS over the years in the mountains of Colorado (Steamboat Springs, +11,000 feet on snow/ice covered Eisenhower I-70 pass, Colorado Springs, Pagosa Springs, Wolf Creek ski area), NM (Santa Fe, Taos, Los Alamos), and AZ (Flagstaff, Show Low).

I rather have tires like the Conti DWS because we can get a 6" of snow in the morning, slush/ice by afternoon into the evening, below freezing temps the next morning, and +50 degrees by the afternoon. Same for the ski resorts where it is light jacket weather in town at 5000 ft and a ton of snow at the resort at +8000 ft. The Conti DWS does the best job for me for my driving conditions and habits year round. I have Conti DWS on my RDX, TSX and my daughter's Mazda 3 5dr hatch. I even have the conti DWS as my full size spares for my MDX and RDX.
 

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Thanks for the feedback! the '06' Conti DWS is supposed to have a thicker sidewall...additionally your real time actual usage feedback (on this particular brand/model) has pretty much reinforced my inclination towards a likely near future purchase of the Continental ExtremeContact™ DWS06 from Discount Tire for my 2009 MDX- while I realize that these tires won't give me the same winter weather oriented advantages as a dedicated Winter tire, i just wanted to confirm that it can handle some snow and ice much better than traditional all season tires- I was close to purchasing Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires- but since I intend to leave these on throughout the year, if I had gone that route, the tread would have worn down fast during the warmer spring/summer months.....I just hope that the Conti DWS 6 doesn't sell out (in the 255-55-18 tire size) within the next couple weeks!
 

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I've had great luck in dry, wet and snow conditions with the Conti DWS' on other vehicles, and the DWS 06 will be my choice to replace the Firestone Destination LEs that came on my MDX. Not sure about Discount Tire's deals, but Tire Rack includes Road Hazard Warranty on pretty much all of their tires now. Haven't used the warranty personally, but could weigh into your decision on next source of tires.
 

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I've had great luck in dry, wet and snow conditions with the Conti DWS' on other vehicles, and the DWS 06 will be my choice to replace the Firestone Destination LEs that came on my MDX. Not sure about Discount Tire's deals, but Tire Rack includes Road Hazard Warranty on pretty much all of their tires now. Haven't used the warranty personally, but could weigh into your decision on next source of tires.
The good thing about Discount Tires is they gave me the cheaper internet price for the same tires I found on eBay from the Discount Tire internet sells (no shipping cost if they match internet prices). I also like they can do flat repair, road force balance, regular balance, front/back or cross rotations, check spare tire, and PSI checks for free when you purchase with them. That has saved me a lot $$ compared to having Acura do the same thing during the A/B services.

I used the road hazard warranty for a destroyed tire once on my RDX with Conti DWS. I had to purchase a 2nd tire to match the tread depth of the replacement tire on the same axle. I had to argue a little with the tech because he said I had to replace all 4 tires instead of just 2 on the same axle because of the awd system. I had a copy of the owner's manual in my Dropbox account and showed him it was A-OK just to do two tires. I just had to re-purchased the road hazard for the two new tires. I just made sure to keep the newer set together when I did my rotations.

The only issue I had in past with Discount Tires was they would over-TQ all the lugs and broke one stud on my TSX once (they paid for replacement stud). I had to use my 2 foot breaker bar sometimes to loosen and to re-TQ to specs at home with my TQ wrench. They recently started using a TQ wrench on all their jobs and put the 94lb/tq specs on the receipt for the tech to follow. I don't know if this is policy for all Discount Tires or just a local/regional thing.
 

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Conti DWS06 sounds pretty darn good. However, I would prefer the performance of dedicated winters and insurance discount that comes with it.
As long as you can change the tires yourself without going to the mechanic twice a year AND have the space to store them, the extra cost of the tires are eliminated by prolonged life of two sets of tires.
If you don't have the space to store for free, then I'd consider the four-weather tires like DWS06.
 

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Thanks for all the feedback! While I can't argue against the benefits of a dedicated Winter tire (like the Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow that I've been running year round)- which has easily and safely allowed me to go 60-70 mph (in complete, full control) on an often empty, snow/ice covered far LEFT Michigan highway lane (while the middle lane was inundated with the majority of traffic treading along very cautiously at about 30mph), I've finally grown tired of having to change between winter and all seasons twice a year...also, Midwest Winters can be very temperamental- some years its like we're living in Alaska/Iceland, and then in other Winters we can only see major snowfalls on a handful of days- overall it pretty much seems like (at least to me) that throughout the year, my 2nd gen MDX (daily driver) would be better suited to have all seasons given the choice (+ this year I kept my Winter tires on throughout the Summer, and b/c Winter tires are typically softer than All Season tires, they've since worn down considerably during these recently passed Summer/Spring months...lol).
 

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I've had 3 sets of Conti DWS's with about 30k total logged miles. I've also had dedicated winters(Blizzak WS60 and Yokohama IceGuard) and drive in Chicago snow.

The Conti DWS's will work ok if you drive prudent and have AWD. I found out that for my RWD BMW though, it was only capable in light dusting of snow and that was it.

Also, the DWS's will not be useful in snow throughout it's lifecycle so don't expect to keep them for snow duties past 15-20k miles depending on how you drive and how fast your tires wear. They have a very nice indicator engraved in the tire which will wear through indicating if "snow" and "wet" performance are still effective given the tread depth amount.

Since the SH-AWD is a very nice system, I really don't see the need for dedicated snow tires unless you live in the boonies with absolutely no snow removal trucks. Even then, you may be able to get grip but you then have to worry about other people running into you.

Overall I think the DWS is a very good to great all season tire and in fact I just bought another set since Tirerack was clearing out the 19" size I needed for $85/piece with $70 gift card rebate. ;)

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It might work going with the Conti DWS 06 until the "S" on the DWS wears down. Then look at a dedicated snow tire (and maybe winter tire/rim set) later. Then you have to switch out every season down the road. Even with only the "DW" on the tires, they are still very good in the other 3 seasons.

I put around +40,000 miles on my older conti dws before the "S" started to wear off (changed at 53,000 total miles with 4/32-5/32 left on the tires).
 

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I put around +40,000 miles on my older conti dws before the "S" started to wear off (changed at 53,000 total miles with 4/32-5/32 left on the tires).
Thanks for another point of reference. Did you achieve the 40k+ on your MDX? If so, that may be a more accurate measuring stick for our cars in terms of snow traction reliability.
 

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I had the 255/45/20 size of the older Conti DWS. I put around 17,000-20,000 miles a year since Jan/14 with Cruise control hwy speeds between 75-85 mph on average in 90-95% dry weather. Always ran the PSI between 35-37, did regular rotations/cross-rotations every oil change, and alignments 1-2 times a year (lifetime alignments with Firestone). I had about 40,000 miles on the tires at around Oct/15 and the "S" was still visible on the tread.

Fast forward to Oct/16; we were overdue for heavy snows in the southwest and I had a few trips planned in snow country in Nov/16. Now at +53,000 miles on the old tires, I decided to go ahead and switch them out with the new Conti DWS 06 to be safe. There was still a faint "S" on the old tires with around 4/32-5/32 of tread left. It ended up being +63 degrees at the Grand Canyon and +75 degrees in Sedona instead during the Veterans Day week. It worked out A-OK since I was still able to cruise at warp speed on the hwy on the Conti DWS 06 instead of having dedicated snow tires at that temp/speed.

I think I could have gone 60,000 miles on my old Conti DWS if it was the end of winter instead of the beginning. I can get the same +50,000 miles on the Conti DWS on my TSX. I can only get around 34,000-36,000 miles from my Conti DWS in my 08 RDX. My RDX really eats up the Conti DWS for some reason.
 

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I've had 3 sets of Conti DWS's with about 30k total logged miles. I've also had dedicated winters(Blizzak WS60 and Yokohama IceGuard) and drive in Chicago snow.

The Conti DWS's will work ok if you drive prudent and have AWD. I found out that for my RWD BMW though, it was only capable in light dusting of snow and that was it.

Also, the DWS's will not be useful in snow throughout it's lifecycle so don't expect to keep them for snow duties past 15-20k miles depending on how you drive and how fast your tires wear. They have a very nice indicator engraved in the tire which will wear through indicating if "snow" and "wet" performance are still effective given the tread depth amount.

Since the SH-AWD is a very nice system, I really don't see the need for dedicated snow tires unless you live in the boonies with absolutely no snow removal trucks. Even then, you may be able to get grip but you then have to worry about other people running into you.

Overall I think the DWS is a very good to great all season tire and in fact I just bought another set since Tirerack was clearing out the 19" size I needed for $85/piece with $70 gift card rebate. ;)

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great real results feedback- i'm sure there are lots of decent, highly rated all season tires out there, but on top of being highly rated, I must have snow capabilities as I will be driving through MI/IL/MN winters- I actually happened to be in Chicago about 5-6 years ago visiting my college room-mate back when they had that horrid snowfall that left hundreds of cars stranded along the lakefront ave...funny- that was the first year I had my dedicated Pirelli (Scorpion Ice & Snow) tires- and those (along with my 2009 MDX's AWD of course as well) really came in handy as I was actually able to still drive like a nut over snow and ice while maintaining control/peace of mind!

now that I'm resolute on getting the DWS Conti 6 set (while abandoning using 2 sets of tires on my '09 MDX moving forward)....
while I know these tires should be able to adequately handle MI, IL, MN snow driving, I will have to come to terms with the fact that I can no longer drive my 2nd gen. all wheel drive MDX like an overconfident nut in the Winter (something that the snow tires had enabled me to do)...give and take. :wink:
 

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One extra thing I did was get a full size spare with the Conti DWS 06. I found an used DWS 06 with 80% tread on eBay for about $80. I just used one of my spare OEM Adv 19" rims to mount the eBay tire since I upgraded to 20" RonJon. It can sometimes take +7 days for shipping with the Conti DWS. I didn't want to be traveling several states away with a loaded down MDX or in the middle of winter on a donut for that long.
 

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One extra thing I did was get a full size spare with the Conti DWS 06. I found an used DWS 06 with 80% tread on eBay for about $80. I just used one of my spare OEM Adv 19" rims to mount the eBay tire since I upgraded to 20" RonJon. It can sometimes take +7 days for shipping with the Conti DWS. I didn't want to be traveling several states away with a loaded down MDX or in the middle of winter on a donut for that long.
that's a great idea- fortunately for me my 2nd gen MDX is the daily driver that only travels short distances often, so once I get a set of these DWS Conti 06 (already confirmed in stock and on reserve), mounted, I will take my chances with the puny stock donut if worse comes to worse and I have to use it... :cool:
 

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but on top of being highly rated, I must have snow capabilities as I will be driving through MI/IL/MN winters-
You may want to further research reviews if snow traction is your number one priority in an all season tire. I think there may be better choices.

However what the DWS does, is provide great performance in all environment aspects which makes driving on them pleasurable, especially since I bought the MDX for the sporty and non SUV like feel. I didn't want to ruin it by getting crappy tires that would make it feel like a Cadillac. I gladly sacrifice the few days out of the year where it may snow more than what the snow plows could keep up with. Those are the only times when you'll feel even remotely crippled IMO.
 

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You may want to further research reviews if snow traction is your number one priority in an all season tire. I think there may be better choices....

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trust me amigo, i'm anal retentive and extremely meticulous in my searches, and if a better all season tire (with snow/ice capabilities) exists out there (in comparison to the Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06), then I'm not sure that country/planet that tire would be from?.....

Continental*ExtremeContact DWS 06

<img src="http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_extcondws06_pdpfull.jpg" width="70%" height="70%">
 

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trust me amigo, i'm anal retentive and extremely meticulous in my searches, and if a better all season tire (with snow/ice capabilities) exists out there (in comparison to the Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06), then I'm not sure that country/planet that tire would be from?.....
Lol, DWS it is! ;)

FWIW, I just drove in 6.5" of snow yesterday on my older(6 yr old) Pirelli 20" tires(50% worn) without any issues. Gotta love the sh-awd.
 

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Lol, DWS it is! ;)

FWIW, I just drove in 6.5" of snow yesterday on my older(6 yr old) Pirelli 20" tires(50% worn) without any issues. Gotta love the sh-awd.
i'm gonna assume that your Pirelli's are snow/ice rated tires- if so what a handy time to have those on your MDX- I saw on the news that Chicago got its first relevant snowfall yesterday...MI can't be too far behind. :cool:

...now all you really have to mainly worry about (other than the daily multiple shootings on the South/West sides of Chicago, along with the uptick on Chicago FREEWAY shootings!) are the over aggressive/over confident drivers on the snow covered Eisenhower driving like maniacs on either all season or tires or tires with hardly any tread left to begin with...
 
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