[LexRX]

The one on the far left with the chrome button is the parking brake, the wooden/leather one is the transmission shifter, and third one (far upper right) is the shifter for the multi-mode 4wd system.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

Anyway this new GX solves my RX vs LX debate, thanks!

That's right, now your parents have the perfect compromise over the LX and RX. How do they like the GX?

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

Okay, BUB, what ever floats your boat. LexRx knows what kinda car I drive (and I am happy too!)

Yeah, what'd I'd be driving if I didn't have an SUV, oh, and If I could afford one The GS 400 would be one of my top pics in sedans. Sweeet, smooth V8 power. Now the MDX'ers probably think we are in cahoots!

I have nothing against the MDX. I really like it for many reasons. I say: if you need to room go for the MDX, if not the RX is where it's at No need to comment, that's just my opinion.

Why are we here? Finding out info on the new Lexus suv, seeing what others are thinking - leaving the realm of ClubLexus. I frequent this board anyway - I'm a fan of most car-based SUV's.

-Nick

BTW - I like the Mahogony over the Silver

 

[LexRX]

Re: Just drive a stake through my heart

Ouch, I bet you're working on an Apple, too...

I knew somebody would catch that ..and NO, I'm using a Dell 8100 or an HP thank you!!

I actually love both colors for the MDX, and would have a rough time choosing. I don't see how some love the SS and others the Mahogony, it seems to be such a funny ongoing issue.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

Re: Re: Re: Just drive a stake through my heart

Mostly we do this because it's fun - but as you can see here, we've entered a new era:

http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=4228

If you really want to check out the debate was down & dirty, go to:

http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1945

Yeah, it's really funny how you guys really differentiate based on these two colors - in fun. I saw the one from your first link, the summit meeting Very funny

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

I saw it at the Detroit auto show yesterday. Its like a cross between the Land Cruiser and the M class. Not bad looking, actually. The only thing bad about it is the engine, supposedly borrowed from the LX470 rated at only 218 hp!(preliminary estimate, according to the display at the show). The 470 is actually rated at 230. Anything less than 240 in a vehicle that size is a crime. Com'n, the Altima is 240 hp. And they claim they're gonna move 8 people in it! Its gonna be a dog.

I'll have to disagree with you on this issue. Horsepower is too often the only thing considered when looking at an engine's power. Torque plays an equally important factor in determining a vehicle's power and ability. More horsepower is better when you want high speed. 230 is a bit weak for an SUV such as the LX or GX, but it is certainly sufficient for an SUV. High speed isn't what an SUV is for. Torque, on the other hand, is where this, and many other larger engines - mainly V8's - are at an advantage. The 4.7 liter engine has 320lb-ft of torque. More than adequate for hauling anything, especailly 8 people.

Another example is the 4.3 liter engine used in the previous generation Blazer, Envoy, Bravada, Jimmy, etc... It had only 190 hp, but 250lb-ft of torque. It felt a weak a highway speeds, but could haul a load with ease.

So, yes, more horsepower may be desireable, but not necessarily so for this SUV. Remember, high speeds aren't an SUVs best friend More torque and less horsepower is a tradeoff in engine design. In this cas I think Toyota/Lexus knows their purpose for this SUV.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

While MotorTrend may be okay for looking at while your in the bathroom, I wouldn't take too much stock in what they say. Offer them a little bribe and you've got what you want!

320lb-ft is a great deal of power, and for a 5401lb (curb weight) SUV, a 10 second 0-60 time is something I would consider on target. Anything lower wouldn't be high on my list of concerns for a 7-passenger SUV that hauls up to 6500lbs. Maybe an uneventful, 10 sec 0-60 is welcome in such a large SUV As always 0-60 speeds are left to cars - or vechiles with a significantly lower center of gravity.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

Sure, remember that when you're merging into the highway from an on ramp with traffic coming at 70 mph while hauling 7 people. BTW, I think a very low percentage of Lexus owners are towing stuff with their SUV's.

It'd be interesting to see how the MDX handles under such conditions, full of people and all of their cargo. I think this same senario could go for the MDX. While it is a potent V6, it will not seem nearly as robust when weighed down.

There isn't an onramp in the U.S. that isn't PLENTY long enough for the LX, and even slower vehicles, to get safely up to speed. First remember that on an onramp you aren't going from 0mph to highway speeds, maybe 35mph or so. If 0-60 is 10 seconds, I'm sure the 35-70 time will give you plenty of time to get that big bastard up to speed, even with a full load.

Now, try it with an '89 Chevrolet Conversion van with 7-people, all their luggage in the back and on top. Do that once a year for several years, two days at a time. Never once having problems getting up to speed. Mind you, with kids in the backgroud fighting etc. The point? The driver is at least 70% of this equation.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

All being equal, the short answer is 2 seconds faster. And when driving at highway speed, 2 seconds is an eternity, . And were not talking high speeds here, 0-60 mph is everyday speeds for most people, even with SUV's.

You're telling me that you actually know the time for the MDX vs the LX470 when loaded with 7-people and cargo accelerating on an onramp or from 0-60 or 35-70, ect. I think you're confusing that with raw 0-60 times. Unless you do actually have data on this, then I am wrong.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

This is my last take on this topic. I don't have to be a mathematician or engineer to know that its gonna be AT LEAST 2 seconds slower than my MDX. BTW, you don't have to look at Motor Trend to realize the lack of power of the LX470. Taken from the www.edmunds.com web site ( I know, they take bribes when they write their reviews, right?): "Power comes from a 4.7-liter V8 that creates 230 horsepower and 320 pound-feet of torque. This V8 is one of the smoothest engines we've ever experienced. Still, we'd like Lexus to add a few horsepower to propel the 5,401-pound truck--".

Last take on the topic? I feel the same, we can agree to disagree, somewhat. I saw somewhat because I really don't disagree with you on the power issue in the sense of HP. I too think that the LX could benefit from more than 230 hp. I just wanted to defend the statement about the LX being inadequate/sluggish in power emphasizing it's hefty torque rating.

Just a nice lively debate on a subject I'm sure we both love to talk about Hopefully I didn't offend you or anyone. Either way, they are all a great bunch of SUV's.

-Nick

 

[LexRX]

Well, rlm32, I think you and I have beat this thread to death I will continue to check in acuramdx.org every once in a while to see what is going on. I've gotta keep tabs on the MDX ya know!

-Nick