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Hi Gang,
Anyone else doing Wireless Internet access? I've searched the forums but couldn't locate anything. There are lots of free Access Points everywhere and more and more being opened up by people all over the country. Check out my setup at:
http://geocities.com/olymdx/

It's pretty cool to be sitting at a stop light and have your Yahoo messenger come to life and deliver your messages! I'd love to hear about other peoples setups in their MDX's so we can share ideas.

Take care,
-Jay
 

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Jay,

That's one cool application for the Navi mod!! Question, where did you buy the TVator and for how much? Where do you install it? Where do you keep you laptop? Is there an ISP you need to sign up for Wi-Fi? Do you have to get a special PCMCIA card?

Just very curious...
 

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MDXtrous said:
Jay,

Question, where did you buy the TVator and for how much? Where do you install it? Where do you keep you laptop? Is there an ISP you need to sign up for Wi-Fi? Do you have to get a special PCMCIA card?
Thanks MDXtrous.
1) The TVator is around $140 online. You can check out the specs at: http://www.antec-inc.com/tvrem2.html
2) Installation: It's really small and can be installed under any seat or in the rear cargo area, the bigger problem is the AC adapter, as will most all equipment. It's the standard AC "square block" plug, it would just be nice if it was just a cord.
3) Laptop location: This is personal preference. I usually keep it on the seat becuase I remove it both at home and at work to do other things on it. If you dedicated a laptop to the cause it could be mounted under one of the seats. The laptop I have is only about 3/4" tall so it could sit on top of the Acura's navigation box under the passenger seat.
4) No ISP is necessary. The public Access Points issue you a IP address automatically (DHCP) and that's all you need, you can then get on the net and do your business.
5) Any 802.11b card will work (802.11a cards won't work). If you want to do War Driving with NetStumbler then you will need a specific card as NetStumbler only supports certain cards. Download NetStumbler and check the readme file for supported cards.
I should add however, if you want to add the external antenna, only certain cards support an external antenna.
Thanks for the reply...
Nice ride by the way MDXtrous!
-Jay
 

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How does one find out about these public access points and their locations and coverage?
 

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MDXtrous said:
How does one find out about these public access points and their locations and coverage?
The best way is to "War Drive" for them (http://www.wardriving.com) , the only problem is once you find one, even if it is open to the net, the question is, does the owner *know* it's open to the net? "War Chalking" will be catching on which will help, basically you will see chalk marks on the sidewalks, streets, etc. indicating the access point and type.
(http://www.warchalking.org)
There are lots of lists and maps on the net. Also, surf for local wireless users groups, that would be your best resource.
Do a search on the net for Free Access Points City Map
Keep in mind, that for every point on shown on a map there are 10 or more not shown as people either 1) don't know about the mapping site or 2) don't know they are providing free internet access.
You could start with the 802.11b Community Network List at:
http://www.toaster.net/wireless/community.html
For anyone around the Bay Area, you're set, there are tons of access points. Check out this guys trip through the bay area.
http://www.pasadena.net/vacation/

Take care,
-Jay
 

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This is very interesting stuff....and while not germain to MDX, I must say that I can not wait to go home tonite and check the scribbling that appeared on the curb outside my home a couple of weeks ago. I assumed it was the electric co or the gas co. I do, however, have a wireless network in my house, linking my 3 PC's to the cablemodem and eachother.

You can bet I will now turn off the netblaster when not in use.
 

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DigitalMDX said:

The best way is to "War Drive" for them (http://www.wardriving.com) , the only problem is once you find one, even if it is open to the net, the question is, does the owner *know* it's open to the net?
Thats why I enable my WEP.
 

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What I want to know is how to get the touch screen to work as a mouse.
 

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Support those who support free WiFi...

I've posted on this topic before but I've got something to add:

TWO major sandwichchains are providing WiFi FREE to customers. I think this is a VERY good thing. Just like some establishments have a "free community cork board" so you can find out community activities/charities and others provide free copies of newspapers/magazines it is nice to see that the folks who run some businesses realize you don't have to put a price ticket on everything to make money.

Next time you get a hankering for some WiFi with a sandwich or bagels check the www.cooldeli.com/wireless.html site for the nearest WiFI Schlotzskys or www.panera.com/wifi/ for the best darned surfing you can find for free.

Personally I wish that gasoline stations and convience stores would also get on the stickwith regard to this.It would be perfect to grab a beverage or snack and get online for whatever you might need in a safe, close to the road, but not on it place...
 

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Re: Support those who support free WiFi...

renov8r said:
Personally I wish that gasoline stations and convience stores would also get on the stickwith regard to this.It would be perfect to grab a beverage or snack and get online for whatever you might need in a safe, close to the road, but not on it place...
802.11 at TruckStops
http://www.truckstop.net

Maybe truckers could start using 802.11 like CB radio and become mobile relay's for anyone on the road.

The have some nice Truck Stop Internet access going in now; Includes air conditioning/heating and electrical power for less than the price of fuel to keep the truck on idle overnight.
http://www.idleaire.com
 

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Guys--

CAn I use my iPaq pocket PC to connect to wifi hotspots like in ones Borders bookstores?

can I just buy a compact flash card WiFi connect to the iPaq and browse the net while in a Wifi hotspots/borders

Coz iPaq would be more mobile for me instead of carrying the whole laptop with me. I really love going to borders and most of the times i see this website link in a magazine and feel the urge to check out that website while browsing a magazine

TIA
 

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zafer said:
Jay, what happened to your Digital MDX web page? home.attbi.com/~digitalmatrix/wardriving

Im sure it has something to do with the Comcast switch, The Worm and I were screwed over with the email, I wouldnt be surprised if the same happened with webspaces.
 

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Mocking-DX said:
Guys--

CAn I use my iPaq pocket PC to connect to wifi hotspots like in ones Borders bookstores?

can I just buy a compact flash card WiFi connect to the iPaq and browse the net while in a Wifi hotspots/borders

Coz iPaq would be more mobile for me instead of carrying the whole laptop with me. I really love going to borders and most of the times i see this website link in a magazine and feel the urge to check out that website while browsing a magazine

TIA

If the WIFI hotspot is free, yes you would just need to "sniff" the
area set appropiate SSID and voila you are set.
 

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DigitalMDX said:

The best way is to "War Drive" for them (http://www.wardriving.com) , the only problem is once you find one, even if it is open to the net, the question is, does the owner *know* it's open to the net? "War Chalking" will be catching on which will help, basically you will see chalk marks on the sidewalks, streets, etc. indicating the access point and type.
(http://www.warchalking.org)
There are lots of lists and maps on the net. Also, surf for local wireless users groups, that would be your best resource.
Do a search on the net for Free Access Points City Map
Keep in mind, that for every point on shown on a map there are 10 or more not shown as people either 1) don't know about the mapping site or 2) don't know they are providing free internet access.
You could start with the 802.11b Community Network List at:
http://www.toaster.net/wireless/community.html
For anyone around the Bay Area, you're set, there are tons of access points. Check out this guys trip through the bay area.
http://www.pasadena.net/vacation/

Take care,
-Jay
Accessing someone's computer network without their knowledge, notwithstanding their lack of securing it, and using that person's ISP and system to access the Internet and your mail, is theft. In California, there are specific computer fraud and illegal access statutes that would apply. People will get nabbed doing htis, as you leave a trail.
 

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norcalchuck said:
Accessing someone's computer network wihtout their knowledge, notwithstanding their lack of securing it, and using that person's ISP and system to access th Internet and your mail, is theft. In California, there are specific computer fraud and illegal access statutes that would apply. People will get nabbed doing htis, as you leave a trail.
This is painfully obvious and goes without saying...

There are plenty of free hotspots around... you don't need to go jacking someones connection.

Free WiFi Directory
HotSpot List
WiFi Areas

A Google search with give you hundreds more...
 

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DigitalMDX --

How do you interact with the PC? Can you do it through the touchscreen or what?
 

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... How do you interact with the PC? Can you do it through the touchscreen or what?
Interaction with the PC is done via a wireless mouse. My original plan was to build a touch pad into the lid of the center console.
I'm currently using a wireless keyboard also but I'd like to install a flexible keyboard on the sun visor.

I have no idea what it would take to attempt to use the touch screen portion of the monitor. You would need a switch to switch who knows how many wires from the NAVI to the PC, then you would need to interface it to the PC and then drivers on the PC. I would think if it was at all possible, it would be a very ugly process to get there.
Take care,
Jay
 
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