First oil change - when to have it completed?

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Someonemdx

Discussion Starter · 9 mo ago

Hi all,

I did search, but didn't find anything conclusive.

The dealer stated 7500 miles would be oil change #1. Just want to know if that is correct or if i should have it done sooner?

Thanks!

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xoomercom

· #41 · 19 d ago

Hogan773 said:
... Do you know if people send those 1000 mile initial dumps to Blackstone for Honda engines and if Blackstone sees an alarming level of metal?

...

Pretty sure they didn't because they were overseas. Here is your chance - seriously.

I wish I though about it but last time I sent anything in was nearly 2 decades ago for a Maxima.

Scott in AZ

· #42 · 16 d ago (Edited)

I always get my first oil change at about 1000 miles, and after that every 5000 miles. Change filter's every time. Dealer service managers say that a 1000-mile oil change is crazy, waste of time and money. We did the same thing for our 2001 GMC Yukon is still good for daily driving at 175,000 miles on all original engine and powertrain. The Yukon consumes virtually zero oil between changes. My last MDX, 2010, burned 1/2 quart between 5,000 mile oil changes at 120,000 miles when we traded it on our 2023 Type-S, so we fortunately avoided the high consumption problem on that otherwise fantastic motor. Was it the gentle break-in and 1000 mile initial oil change? Who knows? But we will stick with what works. I don't mind paying for it, but will be interesting to see how they handle the free service on a 1000 mile oil change. Before you haters start rant about the environmental harm from the extra oil (...that gets recycled) consider the harm that comes from swapping cars every few years instead of every decade.

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Maik

· #43 · 16 d ago

Well, I can tell you I am in your camp. I also change oil and filter every 5k as well. When I went in for a change at 5k and again at 15k, they were both covered by maintenance plan as was the 10k....service advisor told me I could come in every 1k and it would be covered!

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Hogan773

· #44 · 16 d ago

Scott in AZ said:
I always get my first oil change at about 1000 miles, and after that every 5000 miles. Change filter's every time. Dealer service managers say that a 1000-mile oil change is crazy, waste of time and money. We did the same thing for our 2001 GMC Yukon is still good for daily driving at 175,000 miles on all original engine and powertrain. The Yukon consumes virtually zero oil between changes. My last MDX, 2010, burned 1/2 quart between 5,000 mile oil changes t 120,000 miles when we traded it on our 2023 Type-S, so we fortunately avoided the high consumption problem on that otherwise fantastic motor. Was it the gentle break-in and 100-mile oil change? Who knows? But we will stick with what works. I don't mind paying for it, but will be interesting to see how they handle the free service on a 1000 mile oil change. Before you haters start rant about the environmental harm from the extra oil (...that gets recycled) consider the harm that comes from swapping cars every few years instead of every decade. View attachment 125548

Cool

You could also figure out that you wore a red T shirt on every 4th Monday in the first year of car ownership and look, after 175k miles you are still going strong, so next time you buy a car you will make sure you wear a red T shirt on every 4th Monday in that first year of ownership and that new car will be trouble free too

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Maik

· #45 · 15 d ago

Hogan,
Did you get thrown out of the Piloteers Forum?
Hard to believe....over 780 posts here and you don't even own an MDX. I suppose the law of averages comes into play here.....at some point you may even say something worthwhile!

xoomercom

· #46 · 15 d ago

Hogan773 said:
Cool

You could also figure out that you wore a red T shirt on every 4th Monday in the first year of car ownership and look, after 175k miles you are still going strong, so next time you buy a car you will make sure you wear a red T shirt on every 4th Monday in that first year of ownership and that new car will be trouble free too

.and this continues.

You're just a troll my friend! There is so much to do out there.

xoomercom

· #47 · 15 d ago

Scott in AZ said:
I always get my first oil change at about 1000 miles, and after that every 5000 miles. Change filter's every time. Dealer service managers say that a 1000-mile oil change is crazy, waste of time and money. We did the same thing for our 2001 GMC Yukon is still good for daily driving at 175,000 miles on all original engine and powertrain. The Yukon consumes virtually zero oil between changes. My last MDX, 2010, burned 1/2 quart between 5,000 mile oil changes t 120,000 miles when we traded it on our 2023 Type-S, so we fortunately avoided the high consumption problem on that otherwise fantastic motor. Was it the gentle break-in and 100-mile oil change? Who knows? But we will stick with what works. I don't mind paying for it, but will be interesting to see how they handle the free service on a 1000 mile oil change. Before you haters start rant about the environmental harm from the extra oil (...that gets recycled) consider the harm that comes from swapping cars every few years instead of every decade. View attachment 125548

Good for you!

I tend to put more miles on every year. My 2010 Odyssey currently at 183 miles and going strong.

I believe its because I took care of it. I'm not about to listen to trolls online and save few hundred dollars over the life of vehicle to find out my next car has problems earlier because I skimped on oil changes, especially when oil is just cheap.

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IanCH

· #48 · 15 d ago

I'm with Hogan, in this case the only people trolling are doing oil changes with modern full synthetic oil for no reason, and sadly they are just trolling themselves.

xoomercom

· #49 · 15 d ago

IanCH said:
I'm with Hogan, in this case the only people trolling are doing oil changes with modern full synthetic oil for no reason, and sadly they are just trolling themselves.

So how often do you change it?

xoomercom

· #50 · 15 d ago

IanCH said:
If you are doing accelerated intervals, watch the latter part of this video.

If I told you, probably just argue with me, but maybe the video can help you.

Ian,

This very video you posted literally says you may want to dump the initial oil after 1000 miles. What did I miss?

This very thread is about the initial oil change.

Hogan773

· #51 · 14 d ago

Maik said:
Hogan,
Did you get thrown out of the Piloteers Forum?
Hard to believe....over 780 posts here and you don't even own an MDX. I suppose the law of averages comes into play here.....at some point you may even say something worthwhile!

Nahh brother I am welcome there. They are chill over there and are open to all kinds of views, regardless of who owns what.

My views on an oil change are universal though and I don't believe they need to be qualified as to whether I own possession of an MDX.

Have a blessed day Maik!

Hogan773

· #52 · 14 d ago

IanCH said:
I'm with Hogan, in this case the only people trolling are doing oil changes with modern full synthetic oil for no reason, and sadly they are just trolling themselves.

There is certainly lots and lots of misinformation that gets passed down on the internet. I just chuckle at the logic that says because you have done something, and your car is still running well, therefore that "thing" (dropping the oil at 1000 miles in this case) is the reason that your car is running well.

IanCH

· #53 · 14 d ago

xoomercom said:
Ian,

This very video you posted literally says you may want to dump the initial oil after 1000 miles. What did I miss?

This very thread is about the initial oil change.

Did you watch the same video that I did? They said unequivocally that outside of very specific cases there is no reason to change oil at 1k miles. "if you own a subaru, because they suck at making engines" was the only qualifier that you may want to change early.

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TheBeast369

· #54 · 14 d ago (Edited)

If you watch their corvette factory build on the LT6, the manufacturer actually quality control checks each engine and runs a break in process for 20 minutes, changes the oil, and then ships out the car. Not saying Acura is going to run a engine dyno like that compared to a hand built engine like the LT6.

Not sure Acura's control method but I am sure they run a similar QC check each engine or assembled car.

These engineers know a lot more than us. If they thought a new owner should change their oil after 500 miles or 1000 mile/etc they would have put that in the maintenance schedule because they have the same interests in mind, avoid warranty claims at all cost...follow the maintenance minder/schedule and you will be fine.

And on the subject of oil burn in new cars vs older cars, you can thank emission regulations and cylinder deactivation for that, as they have to use softer ring packs than back then.

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Scott in AZ

· #55 · 4 d ago

Got my traditional first oil and filter change at around 1000 miles this week, on 2023 MDX-S, same as I have for forty years of driving on my other 5 new autos starting when I was 20years old (…US Navy sign on bonus). Our Service manager, who I’ve known for over a decade says “yep we have a small group of owners who roll like this”. She was neutral on the utility of a 1000 mile change. It was no-charge, covered under the 2/24 maintenance program.

She was also neutral about adding a Acura OEM transmission fluid cooler to an SUV that I don’t plan to tow with, but I did that too. That one wasn’t free, but it’s how I roll.

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Almatti

· #56 · 4 d ago

Scott in AZ said:
Got my traditional first oil and filter change at around 1000 miles this week, on 2023 MDX-S, same as I have for forty years of driving on my other 5 new autos starting when I was 20years old (…US Navy sign on bonus). Our Service manager, who I’ve known for over a decade says “yep we have a small group of owners who roll like this”. She was neutral on the utility of a 1000 mile change. It was no-charge, covered under the 2/24 maintenance program.

She was also neutral about adding a Acura OEM transmission fluid cooler to an SUV that I don’t plan to tow with, but I did that too. That one wasn’t free, but it’s how I roll.
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Scott in AZ, Yeah, it's Old school thinking, but I'm in your Camp. Modern cars and newer engines may or may not need that first Oil change at 1,000 miles (or so). It was an old practice of old car maintence people from yesteryear to change the Oil and Filter on a new car at 1,000-1,500 miles no matter how you drove it. The theory was that the new engine would produce small metal filaments that should be removed. In the "old days" new cars required specific Break In practices to be followed as well [No heavy acceleration, vary the highway driving speeds etc., for the first 500 miles for example] . Today, that's Gone except for being more gentle on the brakes for first 200 miles. If Oil changes were very expensive, one might be more hesitant to do one so early, but with the average "first Free oil Change" that many of today's carmakers offer (I got 4 for my 22 MDX - Curry Acura), I would do it, even with Synthetic Blends used today (0 -20 Weights). If you spent upwards of $72K for your nice new MDX, what's the harm to have comfort of mind. An interesting thing would be to have that first oil checked to see if there are filaments in the oil.

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Zero2none

· #57 · 4 d ago

I checked my oil dipstick at 5k miles. Looks like new and no glitter elements.

yesterday did my first oil change At 5% oil, 6,200 miles at the dealer. Had our car for 1 year now.

now it has me thinking, should I have not waited for the car to tell me to change oil when it’s been a year ? Haha.

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Almatti

· #58 · 3 d ago

Zero2none said:
I checked my oil dipstick at 5k miles. Looks like new and no glitter elements.

yesterday did my first oil change At 5% oil, 6,200 miles at the dealer. Had our car for 1 year now.

now it has me thinking, should I have not waited for the car to tell me to change oil when it’s been a year ? Haha.

Zero2none, Great. Judging from your mileage in a year, I'm in the same "boat". Into my 22 MDX 21 months now, I have about 11K on the Clock. I've had the oil chnaged 3X to date. The next one coming up will be the last of the Freebies that came with my Lease deal (4 Free oil chnages). IMHO, I would personally have the oil changed at least 2X a year - but that's just me. Given that today's Synthetic Blend Oils generally recommend upwards of every 5-10K miles, Old School thinking that has influenced me would make that the Minimum w/o total mileage consideration. Since I do primarily local Suburban driving, with lots of starting and stopping on Mini -Trips, kinda makes practical sense to me - and more so If I owned the Car. I lease - but at $38.5K Buyout in August 2024, I am striongly considering buying my MDX or perhaps offer the car to a Family member.
Some years ago, there was a Radio show called The Car Doctor. it was hosted by a 30 year experienced auto mechanic from New Jersey, who would field questions about anytjhing Cars. He was a big advocate for changing oil / filter at least 2x a year for cars driven less, like us. His mantra was a common one for mechanics: You can Pay Me A Little Now, Or Pay Me A Lot More Later.... referring to not servicing your car. Modern Engines, and modern fluids used may have chnaged some of that philosphy, But I practice it nonetheless.

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Hogan773

· #59 · 3 d ago

Zero2none said:
I checked my oil dipstick at 5k miles. Looks like new and no glitter elements.

yesterday did my first oil change At 5% oil, 6,200 miles at the dealer. Had our car for 1 year now.

now it has me thinking, should I have not waited for the car to tell me to change oil when it’s been a year ? Haha.

Haha nope you're fine

Your MDX engine, and everyone else's, will last hundreds of thousands of miles even if you changed the oil only every 10K miles if you are using full synthetic, which I'm sure any MDX owner is already. None of you will likely even own this car at that point, because you will have sold it for something else.

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