Went rabbit hunting with my dad this weekend on his farm and was surprised at the MDX ability off road. After hunting we thought we would see how this thing does in snow and mud on steep grades (if we got stuck he has a big tractor to pull me out). Both of us could not believe it. On steep grades the tires never spun. On some grades I stopped half way up the hill and started out with little or no spinning. I had the vtm locked and was in 1st or 2nd most of the time. But even with the tran. in D5 it went very well. Only trick was going down some hills at angles we were sliding which scared the ---- out of me because trees were getting close but no fear we did not hit them. I think a creeper gear would definitely help. It really impressed my dad (owns a 00 Ford F250 super cab 4X4) which is hard to do. I think the tires had a lot to do with it but the vtm-4 worked great. I could feel it kick in and out and vary the amount of torque it provided the rear end. Oh by the way I missed 3 bunnies and got one, dad missed 2 got 0. Those wascly little wabbits.