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A useful story...

I've been installing stuff in my '02 (see my Gallery thread), and experienced an unusual if probably predictable problem. According to the users manual, the MDX is designed to prevent lockouts when the key is left in the ignition. But note that there is a difference between 'in the ignition' and 'in the car'!

I had the moonroof tilted back, all other windows closed, and the car unlocked -- due to its location in my garage, I had been opening and closing the doors as I gathered and installed each new toy.

When I was working on my driver's door speaker upgrade, my cat Morton jumped through the open driver's door to 'help'. (For folks who don't have cats, 'helping' usually means hanging out in close proximity, usually by lying down on top of the item on which the most attention is focused , in this case instruction sheets, key tools, or the item to-be-installed.) Morton nosed around a bit, sniffing all of the unfamiliar smells of the new car. He eventually settled down on the floor in the back seat.

Meanwhile, I had taken off the speaker cover, unscrewed the stock Bose speaker, and had just succeeded in gently disconnecting the wire connections when the phone rang. I got up, closed the car door, and answered the phone. The call led to another tangent task, so it was a half hour or so before I returned to the car.

Which was now locked. Morton was on the driver's seat, meowing to get out. I saw that my keychain was on top of the closed cup-holder on the wood-trimmed center console, with the fob's dangerously large lock button face-up.

Now, it's possible that I had unintentionally locked the car in my work on the door speaker. But I'm pretty sure that I didn't. The most likely scenario is that Morton stepped on the key fob and activated the one-click door locks. Folks with cats (or dogs, kids, or even an understanding of Murphy's law) will know that if this action was possible, it happened.

I had only had the 'X for a couple of days. I had not yet gone to AAA to get a plastic wallet-key made for just such an event. My wife was at work, and had not remembered (or been asked) to remove from her purse the three extra keys I had made at the dealership when we picked up the car. Not wanting to disturb my wife at work 45 minutes away, I called AAA, comforted Morton as best I could, and waited.

After about a half hour, the AAA guy showed up and began working energetically with various slim-jim devices. I, meanwhile, assembled one of his tools into a metal rod about 6' long, with plastic-coated ends in an L and a hook shape. This I fed gently down through the tilted moonroof toward my keys. I managed to connect and hook the keys twice, but they slid off the hook on the way up to the moonroof. The second time, they dropped between the seat and the console, nearly invisible and completely irretrievable.

Meanwhile, in his frustration at not being able to hook the latch by sliding implements down along the window, the AAA guy was escalating his tempo and abandoning his restraint. When he began pushing in the rubber gasket at the top of the door, saying 'Oh, these marks will wash off...'', I called a halt and sent him packing.

I then called my wife to apprise her of the situation. While we both knew that Morton would be fine in the car for the few hours until she would return after work, Debbie decided to plead for an early release, which she was granted. A while later, she was home, Morton was released from the car, and I proceeded to salt the spare keys in various useful places.

This morning, I'm going to AAA to get the wallet-key. You might want to do the same.

--Marne
 

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Hey, Marne, how dare you blame your own "OOPS" on a poor feline??? Shame on you!!! :)

You should have called Acura Roadside Assistance. I believe TLC offers locked-out service. Obviously they may not be very happy to know that you'd rather have them come over than "bother" your wife at work - too bad . :)

Their # should be on a sticker on the driver's door as well as in the manual, as well as on the wallet cards (permanent cards usually arrive in the mail within 1 month) as well as on-line.

You really took a chance having AAA guy coming in. I don't know but doubt it that MDX can be slim-jimmed. Hammer to the window is more like it.

Aside from your wife's "forgetfulness", there should be 3 keys anyway - one locked in the car, one - in your wife's purse. Where was the third one??? :D
 

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Great story, Marne! Reminded me of "Toonces the Driving Cat" from SNL...
 

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Mea Culpa!

Of course I did it, but it makes a better story if Morton caused the problem!

Vip9: Thanks for reminding me about Roadside Assistance. It never even came to mind. Now it will!


--Marne

P.S. My wife had her key, plus the valet key and all of the extra keys I had made.
 

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I think the MDX keys have some sort of identity placed on them to make it harder to steal, therefore the normally handy and helpful AAA credit card keys may not work on the MDX.
 

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AAA plastic keys

I've had these AAA plastic wallet-keys for two of my cars. Their only purpose is to unlock the doors. They are absolutely not for use in the ignition.

My F-150 also has a key-based ignition theft-prevention system. The AAA key works fine in the truck's door.

Later today, after Il get my MDX key, I'll post a message confirming that the keys work (or complaining that they don't).

--Marne
 

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Morton, salting keys... Morton Salt... hmm there's got to be a joke in there somewhere. I take it that Morton is claw free?
 

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Doh!

Marne, there's a good tip buried in all this - it never occured to me that you could make a key without the chip just to open the door, which is really most of what you need when you lock yourself out of the car... I'll be checking into the plastic key thing ASAP!
 

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marne, though I am a cat lover myself and a lesson was learned from all of this....that story is pretty hilarious..sure it wasn't a bottle of "bitter" wine?
 

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Great Pic, Polytat!!!!

It's good to see Bill the Cat again! I miss him on the funny pages.

My cat-lock incident wasn't much of a problem, and certainly not bitter. I enjoyed the humor of the situation all-the-while. It was kind of fun fishing for the keys through the moonroof. Morton wasn't too bugged either. But when the service guy began to lose his sensitivity, I knew it was time to call a halt.

BTW, the plastic key from AAA works just fine. It unlocks the doors with aplomb! The key now lives in my wallet, adjacent to its cousin for my F-150. AAA makes these wallet-keys for FREE for members -- they drastically cut down on lock-out service calls.

--Marne
 

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Gald to hear everything worked out ok. Thanks for letting us know about the AAA service working on the door. I knew they offered it but had dismissed it because of the chip protector in the factory key, but as you pointed out, normally you just need to open the door to get access to the keys.:)
 

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Hi Marne,

Good story! I have a rule to myself (too may rules, Uhh. May be it is the software guy thing): when working on the vehicle, always roll down the window first. I have a fair share of lockouts :D
 

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Marne,
I can just picture Morton sitting in there mocking you since either one of my two cats would have done exactly the same thing to me. However, if you had an open can of tuna, letting the fish aroma gently wafting into the car through the open moonroof, I bet ole Morton would have pushed the unlock button to get at it. Should have called Starkist instead of AAA, you might have had better luck!;)
 

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auto lock very dangerous

Very interesting to read your message, I'm not so sure it was the cat. I had a very scary incident happen yesterday which I can be certain was a fault with the car. I parked the car and took the key out of the ignition and put the keys in my purse, my usual routine is to get out of the car, get the kids, get my purse and then lock up, when I got out of the car yesterday the car locked spontaneously immediately after the door closed, my two small children were in the car and was a very warm day, fortunately I have a relative within minutes who has a spare set of keys who was able to help, but this is potentially a very dangerous situation. This has happened once before but I just assumed it was an error on my part, I now am trying to get the car looked at by Acura, in the meantime, keep plenty of spares around.
 

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blackietaylor said:
Very interesting to read your message, I'm not so sure it was the cat. I had a very scary incident happen yesterday which I can be certain was a fault with the car. I parked the car and took the key out of the ignition and put the keys in my purse, my usual routine is to get out of the car, get the kids, get my purse and then lock up, when I got out of the car yesterday the car locked spontaneously immediately after the door closed, my two small children were in the car and was a very warm day, fortunately I have a relative within minutes who has a spare set of keys who was able to help, but this is potentially a very dangerous situation. This has happened once before but I just assumed it was an error on my part, I now am trying to get the car looked at by Acura, in the meantime, keep plenty of spares around.
Wow. Very dangerous, but it wasn't an occurance of spontaneous locking.

I think I know exactly how it happened.

When you placed your keys in your purse, got out of the car and close the door, something in your purse (even a key attached to the same key ring as your remote fob) pressed against the lock button. You will notice that the lock button is very large, and just pressing your open palm against the remote on a table will activate it.

Its happened to me enough that I carry the remote in an empty pant pocket completely separated from any keys, coins, or other objects. For my wife, I've clipped it to the outside of her purse, again its all by itself, the keys are kept separate.

I understand your alarm, having kids locked in the car would freak out anyone. Since I've made these changes the incident has never re-ocurred.

Just an idea to consider . . .
 

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Hi Blackietaylor:

___After reading your experience, I thought of someone having to break out a window or two to get the kids out. I am relieved to hear that your children are Ok and that you did not have to go that far … I am sure you have picked up the magnetic case for the hidden key since you wallet is probably in your purse and that would not have worked in this instance.

___I have one of those “key fobs from hell” (KFFH) with numerous keys for the various vehicles and twice I have gotten out of the Corolla, placed the KFFH into my pocket and had the Panic feature activated. It’s quite embarrassing to say the least. The mad scramble to remove the keys and to locate the proper FOB to disable has got to be pretty funny for any onlookers ;) As you can imagine, I am a bit more cautious as to how I place the KFFH in my pockets now.

___Good Luck and please keep us updated if there are any problems discovered.

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Hunt Club Farms Landscaping Ltd.
___[email protected]
 
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