I change the oil when the MID says so. Don’t need any oil between changes.I wouldn't consider high moly a sign of so called 'break-in' oil. No one can really know what is the factory fill is but I would wager the high moly levels is to gain every last ounce of efficiency so that spread sheet buyers will consider the MDX because it gets a couple tenths better MPG.
I change at 500 miles on ALL my new cars and they never ever use an ounce of oil between changes.
Actually, Honda does NOT use special break-in oil. They use standard 0W20. They don't even use any special additives. Just normal oil.If it's engine oil, Honda is probably one of the last manufacturers that fills their engines with break-in. I've tested factory filled oil in both of my Odysseys and both times it came in with very high amount of Moly (anti-friction). I'd definitely keep that oil in there for at least 5k miles, maybe longer depending on your driving style.
Actually, I've seen letters from Honda that confirm they use standard synthetic blend engine oil for the factory fill. Nothing special. No extra additives.I wouldn't consider high moly a sign of so called 'break-in' oil. No one can really know what is the factory fill is but I would wager the high moly levels is to gain every last ounce of efficiency so that spread sheet buyers will consider the MDX because it gets a couple tenths better MPG.
There is nothing really to debate about. Facts speak for themselves. Moly is still used in some oils but NEVER is such high numbers. The most I've see was 60ppm, Honda's factory fill is 10+ times more. Take a look at two UOAs I've attached. Both from my vehicles, both factory fills. VW has almost none, while Honda's off the charts. How do you explain that?For the record I don't think Honda or any OEM uses special oil as a factory fill, its off the shelf oil. This is going to turn into another oil debate, but there are numerous sources of Mo in oil and its most certainly still used as a friction modifier. It can also show up in any of the typical UOA as either a wear metal, an additive, or contaminant.