neide, ocean, bostonx, and some others out there who were so 'shocked' at the 'torture' of Iraqi prisoners, are you shocked now as well? The liberal media does not seem to be. This has been my point all along. There is absolutely no proportionality here. As bad as the actions of those few soldiers were, it is nothing compared to how these animals have been for decades now. The lack of extereme outrage on the part of Kennedys and Kerrys of this world is what makes conservatives question liberals' motives.