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Our MDX has about 54K on the clock and the tires are not what they used to be. Personally I've never been a big fan of the Cross Terrains due to the ride and while I'm pretty sure the Primacy will ride better, I'm not so sure about the snow traction.

Anyone here tried them on their MDX?
 

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It's really a passenger car tire. Don't expect a long life if you mount those on a heavy MDX. The Michelin Latitude Tour would be a much better choice if you want to stay with that brand. Or the Bridgestone Dueler Alenza would be the best choice for the money, since Michelins tend to be on the top of the price scale.
 

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Thanks guys
I'm still torn - as noted, the main reason for going with these tires is for the ride quality. I personally find the MDX's ride quality very truckish which surprises me because of its platform.

In your opinion, are the Latitude Tour and Dueler Alenza superior to the Cross Terrains? Per Tirerack the reviews on the Alenza and Cross Terrain look to be about the same (with the Latitude Tour being lower). Thoughts?
 

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I have the mxv4 plus (energy) on my 2010 and find them great. Not as good as the cross terrains I had on my other vehicle in the snow, but smoother and quieter in the dry pavement.
 

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Go to tirerack.com , definitely, read the reviews and look for the most dark green you can find on the surveys.

The primacy are great tires, but dunno on an MDX, probably overpriced. I do like Michelins, had Harmonies on my car for years, and they well-outlasted their 80k mi warranty period plus some.

Whatever you get, do the finger test. My measure of a "good" all-season tire. Stick your pinky finger in the grooves. If it fits, AND has good exit groves out to the edges, it will clear snow and water well, and probably drive really well. Downside is this requires seeing the tire in-person, but pics may give you a good approximate idea. That's just me, though... and car tires. SUV tires, might want to try to get a pointer-finger in the groove.
 

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...So what did you decide on the Primacy MXV4?
 

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I'm in the market for a new tire on my 06 MDX and selected these two tires below as a choice to replace my old OEM Michelin Cross Terrain which has about 67k+ (few threads left) but I'm not waiting until the thread is all gone. Any recommendation? Michelin has $70 rebate or get the OEM tire instead.

Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza
Michelin Primacy™ MXV4
Michelin Cross Terrain
 

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After considering research, I narrow down on two choices: Suggestion?

Michelin Latitude Tour
9/10/5/9/10

9 wear life
10 fuel efficiency
5 off road
9 braking
10 comfort
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Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza
8/9/9/10/7/10/6/7

8 dry performance
9 wet performance
9 wear life
10 quiet ride
7 fuel effiency
10 ride comfort
6 off road
7 winter
 

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I had a set of Primacy MVX4 installed in July. Even though they are they same size as the Cross Terrains, they look larger on the rim, more beefier. The rubber is noticeably softer and the ride is softer. It's not a huge difference but it rides more like a luxury car than suv. It feels like it absorbs road bumps better. There is a noticeable difference when taking turns at speed and/or taking the spiral on-ramps for the interstate. Since the tire is softer you can't go as fast in the turns. Doesn't bother me since I'd rather have the softer, more absorbent ride than go a few mph faster when turning. I do like how they look. They fill out the rim much better and look beefier than the Cross Terrains which looked too thin for the rim. But they are the same size. I guess it's just like buying pants, there are so many different cuts to a pair of jeans at the Gap. So far, I'd buy them again. I wish the M/S 2's came in our size. They're on my wife's truck and I love them. The tread looks like it hasn't worn any in over a year. And they're quiet!
I've read that the Primacy MVX4 may wear faster on the MDX, but so far I love the difference in ride. I've been getting about 55-60k out of the Cross Terrains.
 

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I just wore out my Alenzas. Got about 55k out of them. Tried to keep them at 40psi. Factory psi feels way too soft(mid 30's offhand?). They were definitely better than the stock Goodyears, but I had fond memories of my Firestone Destination LE's. They're a little cheaper, and I've always liked the ride and handling. Can get a full set for $600 installed. I was looking at the Primacy as well. Haven't made up my mind yet. Seems to be more mixed reviews on the Destinations than there used to be.
 

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Tried to keep them at 40psi. Factory psi feels way too soft(mid 30's offhand?).
The factory recommendation is 32 psi.

You're welcome to set them to whatever you want, but I would not advise setting them 8 psi higher than recommended. Not only is the ride quality going to be firm/harsh, but you risk them exceeding the maximum pressure for which they're rated. Adjust in 2 psi increments, but I wouldn't go higher than 35 psi. But it's your car, and your decision.

You should check your tires when they haven't been driven for hours, aren't in the sun, and are at about the same temperature as it is outside when you do most of your driving. Also, keep in mind, especially this time of year when the temperatures get colder, that tire pressure goes down with temperature. If you need to adjust the setting for temperature - like if it's warmer or colder than normal outside, or if your car is garaged - the Tire Rack says the difference is about 1 psi for each 10 degrees F in outside temperature. Also, it's normal for tires to lose about 1 psi per month. So if you last checked your tire pressure in late September when the outside temperature was 20-30 degrees warmer than it is now, you probably need to add air to them, because it's colder outside was well as because of the time it's been since you've checked them.

I am posting this while taking a break from adding air to all the tires on my MDX! The pressure was 31 psi and it's about 20 degrees warmer than normal today, so I'm setting them to 34 psi; they should be right at 32 psi on a day when temperatures are normal.
 

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I've always ran them around 40 give or take around temp (never more but sometimes less). My wear was always even, the ride never felt harsh, and considering I'm not gentle on the pedal, mileage was good. I do understand how temp affects pressure. And the max pressure on the Alenzas is 44psi as are quite a few other tires including the OEM Integritys. Thanks for letting me know I'm allowed to do what I want with my car though.

The factory recommendation is 32 psi.

You're welcome to set them to whatever you want, but I would not advise setting them 8 psi higher than recommended. Not only is the ride quality going to be firm/harsh, but you risk them exceeding the maximum pressure for which they're rated. Adjust in 2 psi increments, but I wouldn't go higher than 35 psi. But it's your car, and your decision.

You should check your tires when they haven't been driven for hours, aren't in the sun, and are at about the same temperature as it is outside when you do most of your driving. Also, keep in mind, especially this time of year when the temperatures get colder, that tire pressure goes down with temperature. If you need to adjust the setting for temperature - like if it's warmer or colder than normal outside, or if your car is garaged - the Tire Rack says the difference is about 1 psi for each 10 degrees F in outside temperature. Also, it's normal for tires to lose about 1 psi per month. So if you last checked your tire pressure in late September when the outside temperature was 20-30 degrees warmer than it is now, you probably need to add air to them, because it's colder outside was well as because of the time it's been since you've checked them.

I am posting this while taking a break from adding air to all the tires on my MDX! The pressure was 31 psi and it's about 20 degrees warmer than normal today, so I'm setting them to 34 psi; they should be right at 32 psi on a day when temperatures are normal.
 

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One other effect of overinflating tires is on performance. When tires are inflated with 25 percent excess pressure (40 psi rather than 32 psi), it reduces the size of the contact patch - the area of the tire that's in contact with the pavement - by 20 percent. In the case of the 4510-pound MDX, they're reduced from a total of 141 square inches to 113 sq in. The effects of smaller contact patches include longer braking distances, reduced maximum acceleration, and slower maximum cornering speeds. (This effect is why racers at the dragstrip let air out of their tires before their acceleration runs, to increase the amount of rubber in contact with the road.)

I do understand how temp affects pressure.
The advice was intended for everyone, including some people who might need the reminder that tire pressures need adjustment especially at this time of year.

Thanks for letting me know I'm allowed to do what I want with my car though.
Thanks for being snide when constructive advice is posted on the forums. It makes this such a wonderful site! :mad:
 

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I notice that few people replace the Michelin Cross Terrains with Cross Terrains. I bought used and it came with Cross Terrains. I am guessing they were the factory tire for the 1st gens.

I have never had the opportunity to replace all the tires at once, I keep damaging one at a time to the point where the tread depths are all different. Now I have two pairs on different replacement schedules. Tread depth affects front alignment slightly if there is a large difference side to side, but not front to back.

The door sticker specifies 32 psi all around, but both dealers I go to, in PA and KY, put 34 all around.

@dbpaddler, don't take responses personally. Nobody on this forum will ever impugn your opinion, character or abilities, but in some cases it might seem so because of sentence structure or semantics.

Rest assured that we are all here to help each other get the best out of our common vehicle, one that, it seems to me, we all love the sh** out of it and are not envious of another.

As a professed dumass, I am thankful for as many different opinions as I can get my hands on.
 

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Update

Went with the Goodyear ComforTreads - they are now higher rated that the Michelins and I am amazed at the comfort as well as traction they provide. The truck rides almost like a car now and handles much better. The tires were not cheap, but they were worth it.
 

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I got the Bridgestones Dueler Alenza. Great in Chicago snow, like today!
I just had DiscountTires pull off a set of Bridgestone Alenzas off my wifes ride. They were great at first but after 33k miles they became so noisey that we just couldn't stand them any more. They still had over 50% tread life reamining but we decided to replace them with a set of Michelin LTX M/S 2.

After my experience with the Alenzas, I could not recommend them.
 

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Has anyone tried Michelin LTX AT2's on their X yet? I am sure they are great in the M&S and rain but I am more concerned with the noise.

I don't want to make a $894 mistake and have to hear the wife complaining about them for 50,000 miles or so.

I can get them for $894 out the door with road hazard, free rotations, and a free 4 wheel alignment. Not too bad, I think, considering they are $194 ea. at tirerack currently w/o shipping and $207 ea. at discountire w/o shipping.

Anyone have any recommendations for a "good" lower tier tire. I am thinking something in the $650 to $750 range.
 

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I am a Michelin fan. The Ltx has one feature that greatly exceeds the others. Tread life. I'm 40k into a set and there is enough. Tread to last close to twice that number.
 
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