Thanks for the note Chris, tubs are still pricey, but the definition of pricey has gone up quite a bit since you've bought yours!MGTD said:We have a sundance spa and have had it about 6 years. It was very pricey (~$4.5k) when we bought it. I does use 220v which you will have to allow.
For us we use it almost every night in the winter (does not get much below 32F here). It is a great warming tool and also a good place to chat about the days events with the spouse etc.
You do have to keep up with it a bit. Tablets every 5 days and shock about once a week to 10 days with dailey use. 3 to 4 time per year for water change. Heating seems only to be about 15 to $20 per month which includes running jets etc.
We hate and do not use the bubbler feature. We also have the ozone thing which is a waste and does not pay for itself I think, although we still use it. Hard to say.
In the summer it does not get used as much if the nightime temps are not about 65F. Another consideration is hardness of your water. Deposits can build up on the surface it you have a lot of calcium.
Thanks DMor, I should have expected that you designed the spa, plumbed it in, and probably built your own fusion system to synthesize water out of hydrogen & oxygen...DMor said:Well...that was a tough post to follow...but someone's gotta do it!
We have an old Jacuzzi in deck spa. If I was going to do it again...I would consider one of those portable...one piece jobs that you can actually take with you. Not that I'd get it for portability...but I like the idea of having all plumbing readily accessible and you could set it a little low and build a nice deck w/steps up to it. Some of these cabinets are really nice...redwood, etc.. I don't remember the prices...expensive tho. $5-7K?
I designed our in ground spa many moons ago and the sides break free to expose some PVC pipes...jet joints, etc. These are important things to consider since you want to leave enough crawl space for a plumber.
The best Spa Chemicals out there are BAQUA SPA products. http://www.baquaspa.com/ Clorine and Bromine Free. Great stuff. We used to use those tablets...hated 'em...this is a huge improvement.
Ok,DMor said:...I would consider one of those portable...one piece jobs that you can actually take with you.
Ghost: Our winter temps RARELY get BELOW 32 F so I don't think they will be the same.ghost said:
Thanks for the note Chris, tubs are still pricey, but the definition of pricey has gone up quite a bit since you've bought yours!
Using it nightly is pretty heavy use, sounds like you're getting your money's worth out of it! I figure we'll use it about 3 times a week, but our winter temps rarely get above 32, so our heating costs would probably be similar to yours.
By bubbler, do you mean the big jet near your feet, or are you referring to other jets? The dealers really tout the ozone thing, and intuitivly I like the idea, but I suppose it's hard to tell if it actually works. The model I'm looking at has a circulation loop that continually ozonates the water.
We did a bunch of research on spas last year, and really like one by Dimension One, (a California company, whadya know) called the Aurora II. One neat thing is that it has a single person recliner seat built in, with a set of sequencer jets. Nice concept! Also, they seem well built, and have a pretty sophisticated control panel for turning on different sets of jets. No sound system though... You can check em out at www.d1spas.com.DMor said:Hey...sounds GREAT! All you need to remember is to leave enough room for guests to sit up on the edge. Many of these spas don't incorporated much "rear-end room" on the lip. We incorporated the spa area with our existing trellis and framed the sides with some posts with hooks for towels, robes, etc.
Which spa did you get? Or are you still looking? We looked at the Jacuzzi Quantum...Pinnacle and a few others. Jacuzzi Jets seemed superior...IMO. Our current spa is simple and 20 years old...still running strong. Jets are REALLY powerful. We had a light installed last year. We couldn't justify a complete replacement since we'd have to crane this baby OUT and we'd probably demo the deck...So...we'll WAIT for it to die...then do a redesign. This will probably be next year's project.
I like the built-in idea, but how do you put a cover on if the deck is flush up against the tub? Most have a cover that fits over the tub like a jar cap, and is about 4 inches deep. I'm thinking an easy way around this is to build some little 4" high moveable seats that could snug up against the tub when it's in use.Our current deck is build LEVEL with the top of the spa lip. This is personal preference...but gives it a more BUILT IN feeling and I think it looks better...IMO. Otherwise, you see the Jacuzzi Lip up over the deck. Also lets you sit on the outside without negotiating a 4" fiberglass hump. Entering is also a little easier...no tripping over the hump and most importantly...doesn't 'catch' the bottom of the wine glass! Looks a little cleaner IMO. Most of the brochures show them with the lip exposed tho.
I've been hanging out on a hot tub site this week and posted some questions on using a wood frame. It really sends them into a tizzy to suggest anything other than a concrete pad, although a tub on a wooden frame is a heck of a lot like a tub on a deck... I did get a good debate going tho.DMor said:RE: Chlorine/Bromine smell? The Baqua Spa System system completely eliminates that. Try it...you'll love it. Really. I hated the bromine tablet and dispenser running around along with the chemical smell. www.baquaspa.com
RE: Cement pad vs. other? Any engineers out there? What's the general consensus??
Personally, I wouldn't consider setting a new spa on ANYTHING other than cement. Ours is on a cement pad. No worries
Must consider...water, heat, ground expansion, body/spa weight with 500 gallons of water...Plus the lower grade, spa overflow and general moisture that accumulates around the spa. Plus drainage, etc.
FYI...this is a special PUMP STYLE ShopVac <a href="http://www.shopvac.com/web/products/index.shtml">ShopVac Link</a>elf89 said:DMor, Thanks for mentioning the shop vac. I always let it drain overnight and clean and fill the next day, but it's such a pain sopping up the remaining water that's lower than the drain hole. I have a shop vac, I just never thought of it for that application!