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im in the market for a new set of tires on the stock rim (19inch) for this winter in northwest. The oem continental are pretty worn out at 50K ish and thought it might make more sense to get the all weather tires instead of a new set of winter tire knowing next year i'll need another set for the summer as well.

Just want to see if anyone has experience with NOKIAN WRG3 SUV tires, any picture one can share. Kinda wanna see how it look like cuz the tires seem really bulky from the picture.

thanks.
 

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Hi,
im in the market for a new set of tires on the stock rim (19inch) for this winter in northwest. The oem continental are pretty worn out at 50K ish and thought it might make more sense to get the all weather tires instead of a new set of winter tire knowing next year i'll need another set for the summer as well.

Just want to see if anyone has experience with NOKIAN WRG3 SUV tires, any picture one can share. Kinda wanna see how it look like cuz the tires seem really bulky from the picture.

thanks.
If you don't already know, the market for "All Weather" tires is growing. I found 3 other tire models in the OEM size that fall under the all weather category.
-Toyo Celsius CUV
-Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady
-BF Goodrich T-A Sport LT

So at least there are other options should you find it hard to obtain a set of the Nokians. I think the Toyos have been out for a few years now, so you should be able to find a good number of reviews on them. From what I've read they're comparable to the Nokians in overall performance.
 

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I ran the WR G2 SUV's on my son's Ford Escape several years ago and they held up well year-round and offered great traction in the winter. Coupled with the SH-AWD I'd imagine the G3's ( a new SUV tread design that's more agressive) would be outstanding. I run Nokian snow tires exclusively in the winter on my vehicles, and wouldn't look at any other brand. And when it comes to the all-weather tires, Nokian still is tops on the list.

In terms of "bulky" - the will have slightly wider tread to do their job in the winter, but they aren't overly aggressive or oversized as you might think. I believe that the www.nokiantires.com web site has some pictures of vehicles with the tire.

Where are you located? I know of several dealers in the NH/MA area where you can get them at decent prices. And they're starting to show up mailorder finally. Previously, only www.tiresbyweb.com had them. Recently I've seen them on www.discounttiredirect.com web site.

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And they're starting to show up mailorder finally. Previously, only www.tiresbyweb.com had them. Recently I've seen them on www.discounttiredirect.com web site.
They can also be found on the following sites:
tiresavings.com
simpletire.com
tires-easy.com

I didn't really look at pricing, but with all these options it'll help with both availability and with you getting the best deal.
 

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Stopped by my tire shop last night to get some slow leaks fixed on the fronts on my truck (leaky valve stems and beads) and asked for pricing for the Nokians.

$844.59 out the door.

I think I can get another couple months out of the tires on my wife's X right now but I imagine I'll be putting a set of Nokian's on this spring. Like I said, I really like them on my Lexus ES300.
 

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$844.59 out the door.
You can get a set of Michelin Defender LTX M/S installed for the same price... The Premier LTX would be only about $25 more.

I can't fathom spending that much on Nokian tires.
 

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You can get a set of Michelin Defender LTX M/S installed for the same price... The Premier LTX would be only about $25 more.

I can't fathom spending that much on Nokian tires.
Nokian's are a very solid winter/aggressive all-season tire with lots of good reviews.

Probably much to the dismay of many, I am not a Michelin fanboy.
I will price other tires too, I am sure, but, I can say I like my Nokian tires and they perform well as an all weather tire, especially shifted towards the "winter" end of things.

They have a new all season out now too, the WR G4.

https://www.nokiantires.com/company...okian-wr-g4-combines-high-performance-all-se/
 

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You can get a set of Michelin Defender LTX M/S installed for the same price... The Premier LTX would be only about $25 more.

I can't fathom spending that much on Nokian tires.
I've run Defenders and NOkian WR's on cars and SUV's in the past, and while the Defenders are really good tires, they don't compare in terms of traction to the all-weather Nokians. I only purchase two brands of tires (when I can) - Michelins for 3 seasons, and Nokian for the winters. Both have served me well over decades of driving, and are well worth the $$ IMHO. But they serve different purposes. I wouldn't buy a Nokian for summer use, nor did I have a lot of luck with the Michelin X-Ice when I ran them in the winter.....

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You can get a set of Michelin Defender LTX M/S installed for the same price... The Premier LTX would be only about $25 more.

I can't fathom spending that much on Nokian tires.
Because you don't live in snow country and don't know any better. If you had bad experiences with Nokian then your opinion might be useful, but just assuming Michelin is better is nonsense.

I drove WR G2 (second gen) tires on my FWD Maxima for more than a decade. The great majority of my driving is between Portland and Bend, over the Cascade passes, so I have a lot of experience with them in winter driving, as well as summer driving on winding mountain roads. They are superb tires, all year. The "Severe Service Emblem" means that for most winter trips there is no need to chain up going over the pass - one or the other is a legal requirement here in snow so all-season tires need not apply.

Ever since buying the MDX in July, 2015, I have been impatiently waiting for the stock (Michelin) tires to wear out so I can buy some WRs (and stop having to chain up). I hope they get my size of the G4s in stock by fall... Depending on model/year the sizes are 245/60R18, 245/55R19, and 245/50R20.

FWIW most of my friends who have to drive in the snow switched to WRs a decade ago and never looked back. My brother lives in Bend (snow country) and wouldn't be without them. Like Subaru Outbacks, they have proven themselves in the Pacific Northwest and have a loyal following here.
 

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Because you don't live in snow country and don't know any better. If you had bad experiences with Nokian then your opinion might be useful, but just assuming Michelin is better is nonsense.

I drove WR G2 (second gen) tires on my FWD Maxima for more than a decade. The great majority of my driving is between Portland and Bend, over the Cascade passes, so I have a lot of experience with them in winter driving, as well as summer driving on winding mountain roads. They are superb tires, all year. The "Severe Service Emblem" means that for most winter trips there is no need to chain up going over the pass - one or the other is a legal requirement here in snow so all-season tires need not apply.

Ever since buying the MDX in July, 2015, I have been impatiently waiting for the stock (Michelin) tires to wear out so I can buy some WRs (and stop having to chain up). I hope they get my size of the G4s in stock by fall... Depending on model/year the sizes are 245/60R18, 245/55R19, and 245/50R20.

FWIW most of my friends who have to drive in the snow switched to WRs a decade ago and never looked back. My brother lives in Bend (snow country) and wouldn't be without them. Like Subaru Outbacks, they have proven themselves in the Pacific Northwest and have a loyal following here.
I lived in Oregon for 13 years. Worked in Ashland. Drove the Grants Pass, Brookings, Klamath Falls routes weekly. I’m familiar with PNW weather and snow.

But keep assuming and being an ass. It seems to fit you.
 

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I lived in Oregon for 13 years. Worked in Ashland. Drove the Grants Pass, Brookings, Klamath Falls routes weekly. I’m familiar with PNW weather and snow.

But keep assuming and being an ass. It seems to fit you.
Great - but with Nokians? No, of course not. My point is that personal experience is welcome, but sliming a brand you are obviously not experienced with is not useful, just prejudice.

You eat with that mouth too?
 

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Great - but with Nokians? No, of course not. My point is that personal experience is welcome, but sliming a brand you are obviously not experienced with is not useful, just prejudice.

You eat with that mouth too?
No not with nokians. I don’t use **** tires.

There are lots of things I don’t have to personally experience to know they’re bad.

Yes I eat with this mouth. Is that even an insult?

Oh baby I just found out how to make this forum better!

 

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To be clear: Nokian is widely considered to be the world's best winter tire manufacturer, whether or not you know that. Their Hakkapeliitta winter tires are legendary, especially among winter rally competitors.

The WRs have been around in the PNW for a couple of decades, at least. They have had no competition in the "all-weather" category until very recently (a category they created). The very recent newcomers, including Michelin, have not been around long enough to establish a track record yet. Time will tell, but the burden is on them to show they can do as well as the WR, not the other way around.

As for the "mouth" comment - calling someone an ass because he calls you out on your brand prejudice - something you doubled down on - is completely inappropriate for polite company. In other words, shame on you.
 

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I'm as much a Michelin snob as anyone EXCEPT winter tires. I've had years of my life scared away traveling snowy Rocky Mountain passes or remote northern highways in winter on Michelin "all-season" tires, including Cross Country and Latitude Tour. They convinced me to start using dedicated winter tires again.

Nokian is a Finnish company that invented the modern winter tire, for those who don't know. Their Hakkapeliittas are the only dedicated winter tires I consider to be in the same class as Bridgestone Blizzaks, and I'm currently split 50/50 on Blizzaks and Hakkas between my family's four crossovers. Finland may have more snow and ice than CO and OR combined. And way more reindeer.

Anyway, Nokian is a specialist tire company that is branching out into more mainstream tires, not a "crap" tire company. Their tires are neither cheap nor low-quality.

I think the idea of the "all-weather tire" may be most useful for weekend warriors who foray into the frozen mountains from the burning desert. Dedicated winter tires don't do well on warm/hot pavement, and swapping wheels for the weekend may not be practical. Even swapping over wheels and/or tires twice a year isn't all that much fun, but whether the compromises inherent in any "jack of all trades" tire are acceptable is a personal choice.
 

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Man, another tire thread stirring things up here on the forum ?.

My opinion (which really isn't worth much) is that the Nokian WR series of tires is pretty good. I have recommended them to someone because I thought it was the best tire for their needs. When compared to a set of Defender LTX, I think the biggest trade-offs between the two models are winter traction and tread wear.

Like it has been mentioned in the other tire thread, I think it's nice that we have a good selection of competently performing tires to choose from. We can pick the ones that best suit our needs and wants.

While I haven't owned a set of Nokian WR series tires myself, I do know a few people who have run the WRG2 SUV model. The winter traction was within their expectations. As far as complaints and other observations about the tire, I did hear that wet traction started to fall off as they aged (even with plenty of remaining tread depth) and increased noise. I know the WRG3 is different, though I don't recall what areas Nokian had improved upon.

Models like the WRG3 definitely have their place in the world of tires. Whether or not one wants to pay what they're priced at is a personal choice, and the overall market will determine if they're worth it. Actually now that I think about it, the same can be said for Michelins.

On a side note, there appears to be a growing demand for these "all weather" type of tires and manufacturers are starting to roll out models for this category. I like it, as it gives us even more to options choose from.
 

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My first experience with Nokian snows was in the late 80's with a set of Nokian NR10's. (pic attached) This was back before any manufacturer (including Michelin) really understood the balance of gripping lugs and siping for ice traction. As others have stated, they've advanced winter tire technology, and others catch up along the way. And as I stated earlier, I'm a Michelin "fanboy" for my non-winter tires, using them as the benchmark for smoothness, construction quality, and overall treadwear. Having purchased both Michelin and Nokian tires almost exclusively for over 30 years, I can vouch for the fact that both are amongst the highest quality tire you can buy. The Nokians I've purchased have always spun smooth, had very low RoadForce balance numbers, and had wear characteristics you'd expect for the traction they give. Perhaps the ONLY "stinker" of a tire I've experience from Nokian was a set of Nokian i3 tires I purchased for a 2005 Accord for summer use. Those tires were made in China (they don't do that any longer) and wore like cr*p. But I've also had a few Michelin "stinkers" over the years - so nobody is immune.

Can't wait for the Conti's on the MDX to wear out so I can drop a set of Michelins on it :)

andy
 

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I was curious about the Michelin Defender LTX M/S mentioned earlier, so did some research. They simply don't belong in this discussion as they do not meet the Severe Snow certification requirements - the distinction between "all-season" and "all-weather". The other three mentioned (Toyo, Goodyear, Goodrich) do meet that standard.

It is worth noting that a lot of "winter" and "mud and snow" tires do not meet this standard. But as a buyer it makes no sense to settle for less. And in Oregon, as I suspect in other states, there is a legal impact as well.
 
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