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Old 08-06-2007, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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B16 Maint code - necessary or ripoff?

My Wifes '07 MDX is showing a "B16" code in Maint Minder which we just found out is going to cost $290 to have this 10k vehicle serviced. I'm outraged. Why would a vehicle of this caliber need the rear differential fluid changed (the "6" in B16 code) after 10k of in town and highway driving? This seems like the stereo typical Honda/Acura service flogging to me. We love this vehicle and want to take good care of it but this seems excessive to us. Any thoughts?
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The SH-AWD is really complicated and you shouldn't screw with it.

You could get a little dirty and do services your self for a fraction of that cost. Haven't had one for the X yet, but I do them for the TL. Easy enough.

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Old 08-07-2007, 12:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm past the 11000 mile mark and the X just spit out this code. I'm about to find out later today how much I'm going to be raped. I think I'm getting too old or too lazy to do a fluid change. Besides, I'm having a sticky rear door mechanism replaced under warranty. I'll post the cost later.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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$308 including tax!

EDIT: Came down to $294, so I guess it's still in line with other service departments' charges. They changed the VTM, engine oil, and hypoid gear oil and rotated the tires plus the notorious "inspections".
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:55 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I had the B16 service done when my X hit 13,000. It was $290 including taxes and the other fees. They told me it has to be done to drain and replace the fluid that might have some fine contaiments because it is a new car. It will be a while before the another differential service
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Follow up to B16

This is pretty interesting. Service dept says they charge $290 for the bundled service. However, they charge $149 for the rear differential fluid change by itself. They charge $99 for an oil change/ inspections and tire rotation - B1 service without the 6. $149 + $99 only equals $248 - not $290. When I questioned this the service lady (very nice by the way) just said that when they bundle the service together the charge is $290 and that she didn't have an explanation. I am going to change the fluid myself and keep meticulous receipts and records. Many places on the internet show how to do it and it appears very easy. I will post back my experience. This is a $149 service that will save me $190 (strange - huh?) less the $20 for 3 qts of Honda ATF - Z1 fluid and $5 for a pump.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This is pretty interesting. Service dept says they charge $290 for the bundled service. However, they charge $149 for the rear differential fluid change by itself. They charge $99 for an oil change/ inspections and tire rotation - B1 service without the 6. $149 + $99 only equals $248 - not $290.
My service advisor did mention hypoid oil change, which I have yet to look up.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Service Dept announced to my wife today....

....that they have lowered their price on bundled service for B16 to $250 after I had brought it to their attention that this didn't make sense. I applaud that they admitted their mistake and made good.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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$199 for B16 at Niello Acura in Sacramento. I think $199 is too much but I like my clean fingernails.

I performed the '1' of the A1 myself and had the 'A' (oil changed) for $19.95.

I've got 12,700 miles since Feb 2007.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I can't believe what dealers charge for the rear diff fluid change.

It takes 10-15 mins to do it at home, and it is so easy to do.

Fluid cost with washers is under $30. I'll keep doing this one myself.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think I paid only 170 or less for B16 service recently. Oil change, tire rotation and diff fluid change at 10000 miles??? At Jackson Acura Atlanta!

Got a spare wheell for 200, I know I paid $367 this Friday.

Actually when I first called Jackson around 10,000 miles, I had a plan on some long trip, and maintenance light didn't come on yet. So I wanted to get atleast Oil changed, called and went in for Oil Change. On the way, B service light came on. I had to just give the X to guy at the door and go to lunch with wife in my 5 series, so I told the guy to just do oil change. Service rep just took my word and did that though it says B6 or B16. Later when I went there, he said I needed Diff Fluid change. As it takes time again, we decided to do it later. So now I got 14000 miles, just called them and got B16 done again. Long story. Diff Fuild changed every 20000 miles except first time at 10k for break in.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I can't believe what dealers charge for the rear diff fluid change.

It takes 10-15 mins to do it at home, and it is so easy to do.

Fluid cost with washers is under $30. I'll keep doing this one myself.
The VTM is easy enough to do on an 01-06. Are you saying it's the same for an 07? I haven't looked into it yet.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My comment is based on the assumption that the the vtm4 fluid change is essentially the same on the 07 and up MDX.

I can't imagine that it would have changed that much, but I am sure someone who has done it on both can tell us the difference.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Though I haven't done it for my X yet, but I did change the Diff and hypoid fluid for my RL which has similar SH-AWD system. It's a matter of draining and filling with ATF. It was fairly simple to change both. Just surprised that it took close to 5 qt of ATF to fill both chambers. I expect the X will be just as easy but only have 2K miles on it now so it'll be a while before I have to do it.
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Though I haven't done it for my X yet, but I did change the Diff and hypoid fluid for my RL which has similar SH-AWD system. It's a matter of draining and filling with ATF. It was fairly simple to change both. Just surprised that it took close to 5 qt of ATF to fill both chambers. I expect the X will be just as easy but only have 2K miles on it now so it'll be a while before I have to do it.
Doesn't the SH-AWD system in the RL/MDX use the VTM-4 fluid like in the past MDXs? I'm pretty sure it does.
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